• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

George Carlin: Pro Life, Abortion, And The Sanctity Of Life

Status
Not open for further replies.

David_N

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 26, 2015
Messages
6,562
Reaction score
2,769
Location
The United States
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
This is GOLD.
George Carlin - Pro Life, Abortion, And The Sanctity Of Life
Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren’t they? They’re all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you’re born, you’re on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you. They don’t want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine; if you’re preschool, you’re ****ed.
And say you know something? Listen, you can go back further than that. What about the carbon atoms? Hah? Human life could not exist without carbon. So is it just possible that maybe we shouldn’t be burning all this coal? Just looking for a little consistency here in these anti-abortion arguments. See the really hardcore people will tell you life begins at fertilization. Fertilization, when the sperm fertilizes the egg. Which is usually a few moments after the man says “Gee, honey, I was going to pull out but the phone rang and it startled me.”
But even after the egg is fertilized, it’s still six or seven days before it reaches the uterus and pregnancy begins, and not every egg makes it that far. Eighty percent of a woman’s fertilized eggs are rinsed and flushed out of her body once a month during those delightful few days she has. They wind up on sanitary napkins, and yet they are fertilized eggs. So basically what these anti-abortion people are telling us is that any woman who’s had more than more than one period is a serial killer! Consistency. Consistency. Hey, hey, if they really want to get serious, what about all the sperm that are wasted when the state executes a condemned man, one of these pro-life guys who’s watching cums in his pants, huh? Here’s a guy standing over there with his jockey shorts full of little Vinnies and Debbies, and nobody’s saying a word to the guy. Not every ejaculation deserves a name.
Now, speaking of consistency, Catholics, which I was until I reached the age of reason, Catholics and other Christians are against abortions, and they’re against homosexuals. Well who has less abortions than homosexuals?! Leave these ****ing people alone, for Christ sakes! Here is an entire class of people guaranteed never to have an abortion! And the Catholics and Christians are just tossing them aside! You’d think they’d make natural allies. Go look for consistency in religion.
And you might have noticed something else. The sanctity of life doesn’t seem to apply to cancer cells, does it? You rarely see a bumper sticker that says “Save the tumors.”. Or “I brake for advanced melanoma.”. No, viruses, mold, mildew, maggots, fungus, weeds, E. Coli bacteria, the crabs. Nothing sacred about those things. So at best the sanctity of life is kind of a selective thing. We get to choose which forms of life we feel are sacred, and we get to kill the rest. Pretty neat deal, huh? You know how we got it? We made the whole ****ing thing up! Made it up! The same way… Thank you.
 
sexual politics is just such a great distraction, quick everyone think about penises and vaginas!!!
 
It sounds very much like the uneducated bigots arguing against the civil rights movement's campaign for black people's rights.

How so? Can you compare and contrast?
 
How so? Can you compare and contrast?

Just take the derogatory way of denoting the political competitor, the exaggerations, the generalizations, deceptive analogies or expletives.
 
Just take the derogatory way of denoting the political competitor, the exaggerations, the generalizations, deceptive analogies or expletives.

George Carlin was not a competitor. He was a comedian. He was commenting on something that was blatantly obvious. The thrust of the pro-life campaign is about the fetus. It would be nice to see that intense fervor applied to the health and well being of the born.
 
George Carlin was not a competitor. He was a comedian. He was commenting on something that was blatantly obvious. The thrust of the pro-life campaign is about the fetus. It would be nice to see that intense fervor applied to the health and well being of the born.

And what he shows up is how closely the old time bigots resembled the new ones.
 
And what he shows up is how closely the old time bigots resembled the new ones.

You mean the bigots that are against protecting the born - favoring the fetus?
 
George Carlin was not a competitor. He was a comedian. He was commenting on something that was blatantly obvious. The thrust of the pro-life campaign is about the fetus. It would be nice to see that intense fervor applied to the health and well being of the born.

And yet again this canard is repeated.
 
And yet again this canard is repeated.

It is a matter of perspective.

I feel "pro-life" should mean also assuring the health and well being of the born. To me, if this is not a major component of "pro-life" the movement should be more aptly named "pro-fetus".

Don't blame others that are confused by a movement that was poorly named.
 
You mean the bigots that are against protecting the born - favoring the fetus?

Among a number of others, those "protecting the born" from the hardship of responsibility for their craving of fun and therefore pretend that the fetus is not another racist definition of a sort of humans, would certainly be candidates.
 
Among a number of others, those "protecting the born" from the hardship of responsibility for their craving of fun and therefore pretend that the fetus is not another racist definition of a sort of humans, would certainly be candidates.

So, you think that medical hardship only stems from craving for fun?
 
Stupidity from beginning to end.

Respectively - with no respect whatsoever to the bigotry of the author:

Support or opposition to socialism has nothing to do with support or opposition to abortion.

Carbon atoms in and of themselves are not lifeforms, let alone members of sapient species like we are.

It is a scientific fact that the lifespan of a sexually reproducing organism begins at fertilization - Carlin's mocking tone is ironic given his blatant ignorance of fact.

There is no such thing as a "fertilized egg." After fertilization there is no egg cell and no sperm cell - there is, briefly, a Homo sapiens in the zygote stage of life. First mitosis happens pretty quickly, though.

The fact that many humans suffer a natural death in no way justifies killing other humans. Every human dies of natural causes eventually; if that is justification, then everyone on the planet is fair game for legal homicide by his perverted, idiotic logic.

Tumors have no relevance to the discussion; tumors are literally part of the body of an organism, a line of cells that replicates without regulation. The offspring we create are not part of our bodies.

* * *

George Carlin and anyone who agrees with the above stupidity fail so hard that they are a far greater source of laughing at than he was ever was laughing with.
 
Among a number of others, those "protecting the born" from the hardship of responsibility for their craving of fun and therefore pretend that the fetus is not another racist definition of a sort of humans, would certainly be candidates.

There is no need for reponsibility afterward if a woman doesnt want it. She can put up a baby for abortion. She can be very responsible and do so if she does not feel she can take care of a baby.

It's also very responsible to NOT produce a child that you know will require you to accept taxpayer $$ in public assistance. That is irresponsible, to expect others to pay for your kid if you can avoid it.

Or is it irresponsible to have a kid you cant afford and then neglect, with time and $$, your other children or elderly parents, etc? Have fewer resources with which to support them?

Is it irresponsible to make a decision that enables you to finish high school, college, develop a career instead of a 'job' and thus enhance your chances of contributing more to society?


Hmmm, and it all comes down to, in your 'judgement,' women not being able to control their cravings? :doh I hear the Taliban is recruiting.....sounds like you just resent women being able to enjoy sex, period.
 
I have been studying comedians and I have determined that Carlin is the all-time greatest. He rewrote his act much more often than most other comedians and everything he wrote was funny. He wisely commented on social, political and cultural situations with his own hilarious, unique and enlightening observations.
 
Yes that is what we find in every single one of your posts without exception.

I wonder if I should be surprised if you get away with this bull**** or if I should be surprised if you don't.

I don't even know anymore.

George Carlin is dead and therefore we can be assured he is not a poster on this site.

I am a poster on this site and your off-topic and completely classless personal attacks aren't kosher.
 
It's been FACTUALLY proven time and time again that any pro-life or pro-choice argument based on "right to life" or "sanctity of life" completely fails and has ZERO logical, factual or non-hypocritical support. It completely fails each and every time and generates nothing but laughter from all those who are honest, topically objective and educated. LMAO
 
So, you think that medical hardship only stems from craving for fun?

May I understand from your swerving to the medical cases that you are okay with the statement for the others?
 
Among a number of others, those "protecting the born" from the hardship of responsibility for their craving of fun and therefore pretend that the fetus is not another racist definition of a sort of humans, would certainly be candidates.

May I understand from your swerving to the medical cases that you are okay with the statement for the others?

So do you think any hardship stems from a simple craving for fun? (sounds like slut shaming to me)
 
So do you think any hardship stems from a simple craving for fun? (sounds like slut shaming to me)

Not "any", only "some". But that is, what I had said, I believe.
 
Not "any", only "some". But that is, what I had said, I believe.

I think sex is beyond just a craving for fun.

YMMV
 
Not meant to be kosher, just factual.

Then you failed.

It's worth noting that all you've done is drive-by troll. You didn't rebute anything said, you just engaged in ad hominem in blatant violation of the rules of this site.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom