Genocidal Hypocrisy

[Bodi]

Since the apparent Jew Haters only talk about Gaza and what they argue is a genocide... I thought I would point out current genocides that they are hypocritically ignoring.

Why? I say it is Jew Hate. It could be something else though... but I thought it would be interesting to see if the hypocrites continue ignoring it after it is pointed out.

Strong evidence that Ethiopia committed genocide in Tigray war: Report

Report says Ethiopia and allies had ‘intent to destroy Tigrayans as an ethnic group’ and calls for prosecution at ICJ.

www.aljazeera.com

US: State Department Determines Genocide in Sudan

The United States government said on January 7, 2025 that it had determined that Rapid Support Forces (RSF) forces committed genocide in Darfur during the current conflict in Sudan. The US government also sanctioned the RSF commander, Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo, for atrocities committed by his...

www.hrw.org

Current Genocides - Tenth Street Times

In countless countries, certain ethnic groups like the Darfurs and Ukrainians have been targets of brutal murders and deaths, otherwise known as targets of genocide. The term genocide means the massacre of a large group of an ethnic ...

tenthstreettimes.waukeeschools.org

Yazidi Genocide Archive

Welcome to the Yazidi Genocide Archive. The Yazidi Genocide Archive is a digital project that commemorates and documents the 2014 Yazidi Genocide, which was perpetrated by the Islamic State in August 2014 against the Yazidi people.

www.yazidigenocidearchive.com

Human rights violations

The State of the World’s Human Rights: Amnesty International Annual Report 2024

The world is reaping a harvest of terrifying consequences from escalating conflict and the near breakdown of international law, said Amnesty International

www.amnesty.org.au

Filipino Human Rights Defenders, Int’l Faith Allies Convene In Rome For Pagtatanim

Over the two days of the conference, speakers and participants emphasized the urgent need for solidarity from communities of faith during the current political moment.

www.scoop.co.nz

 

[Lursa]

Another ray of sunshine....

 

[Felis Leo]

Since the apparent Jew Haters only talk about Gaza and what they argue is a genocide... I thought I would point out current genocides that they are hypocritically ignoring.

Why? I say it is Jew Hate. It could be something else though... but I thought it would be interesting to see if the hypocrites continue ignoring it after it is pointed out.

Strong evidence that Ethiopia committed genocide in Tigray war: Report

Report says Ethiopia and allies had ‘intent to destroy Tigrayans as an ethnic group’ and calls for prosecution at ICJ.

www.aljazeera.com

US: State Department Determines Genocide in Sudan

The United States government said on January 7, 2025 that it had determined that Rapid Support Forces (RSF) forces committed genocide in Darfur during the current conflict in Sudan. The US government also sanctioned the RSF commander, Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo, for atrocities committed by his...

www.hrw.org

Current Genocides - Tenth Street Times

In countless countries, certain ethnic groups like the Darfurs and Ukrainians have been targets of brutal murders and deaths, otherwise known as targets of genocide. The term genocide means the massacre of a large group of an ethnic ...

tenthstreettimes.waukeeschools.org

Yazidi Genocide Archive

Welcome to the Yazidi Genocide Archive. The Yazidi Genocide Archive is a digital project that commemorates and documents the 2014 Yazidi Genocide, which was perpetrated by the Islamic State in August 2014 against the Yazidi people.

www.yazidigenocidearchive.com

Human rights violations

The State of the World’s Human Rights: Amnesty International Annual Report 2024

The world is reaping a harvest of terrifying consequences from escalating conflict and the near breakdown of international law, said Amnesty International

www.amnesty.org.au

Filipino Human Rights Defenders, Int’l Faith Allies Convene In Rome For Pagtatanim

Over the two days of the conference, speakers and participants emphasized the urgent need for solidarity from communities of faith during the current political moment.

www.scoop.co.nz

Antisemitism is certainly present in some criticisms and attacks on Israel, especially among those on the isolationist and xenophobic political right (represented by the likes of Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene in America), and antisemitic Islamism represented by the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is an offshoot. But I do not see where conspiratorial anti-Jewish hatred represents anywhere close to a majority or a plurality of the driving force behind criticism and condemnation of Israel or pro-Palestine liberation sentiment.

Rather, most of it seems to be driven by basic human compassion and a recognition of the Palestinians' humanity. At the moment, most Americans just do not like Israel (53% of U.S. adults have an unfavorable opinion of the state of Israel by latest polling). Is a majority of America now antisemitic for disliking Israel? Moreover, many of the strongest critics and anti-Zionists are themselves Jews. To argue that these Jews are anti-Semites strikes the same detached-from-reality chord as arguing that white Anglo-Saxon Protestant protesters against Apartheid Rhodesia or South Africa were self-hating whites. It is an inane and empty criticism when one looks at why they are criticizing Israel versus the evil motivations that are attributed to them.

I would argue that the reason the condemnation of these other genocides are not covered anywhere near as much as the one being perpetrated by Israel is because (1), most of these other ongoing genocides have not claimed as many lives as the one currently being carried out by Israel; (2) they are carried out in isolated areas that journalists and humanitarian organizations are unable to access; (3) the victims of these genocides have few ties to the United States whereas the Palestinians have a greater diaspora here; (4) this genocide is being carried out by an ostensibly civilized, law-governed democratic state by the "most moral army in the world" and; (5) most significantly, the Israelis are carrying out the genocide armed with weapons that are being funded by the American taxpayer at no cost to themselves.

 

[Bodi]

Antisemitism is certainly present in some criticisms and attacks on Israel, especially among those on the isolationist and xenophobic political right (represented by the likes of Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene in America), and antisemitic Islamism represented by the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood, of which Hamas is an offshoot. But I do not see where conspiratorial anti-Jewish hatred represents anywhere close to a majority or a plurality of the driving force behind criticism and condemnation of Israel or pro-Palestine liberation sentiment.

Rather, most of it seems to be driven by basic human compassion and a recognition of the Palestinians' humanity. At the moment, most Americans just do not like Israel (53% of U.S. adults have an unfavorable opinion of the state of Israel by latest polling). Is a majority of America now antisemitic for disliking Israel? Moreover, many of the strongest critics and anti-Zionists are themselves Jews. To argue that these Jews are anti-Semites strikes the same detached-from-reality chord as arguing that white Anglo-Saxon Protestant protesters against Apartheid Rhodesia or South Africa were self-hating whites. It is an inane and empty criticism when one looks at why they are criticizing Israel versus the evil motivations that are attributed to them.

I would argue that the reason the condemnation of these other genocides are not covered anywhere near as much as the one being perpetrated by Israel is because (1), most of these other ongoing genocides have not claimed as many lives as the one currently being carried out by Israel, (2) they are carried out in isolated areas that journalists and humanitarian organizations are unable to access, (3) the victims of these genocides have few ties to the United States whereas the Palestinians have a greater diaspora here, (4) this genocide is being carried out by an ostensibly civilized, law-governed democratic state by the "most moral army in the world" and, (5) most significantly, the Israelis are carrying out the genocide armed with weapons that are being funded by the American taxpayer at no cost to themselves.

Do you have an argument or do you want me to read an unsourced cut and paste in an attempt to find it?

 

[Gozaburo]

Since the apparent Jew Haters only talk about Gaza and what they argue is a genocide... I thought I would point out current genocides that they are hypocritically ignoring.

Why? I say it is Jew Hate. It could be something else though... but I thought it would be interesting to see if the hypocrites continue ignoring it after it is pointed out.

I think the particular interest in the Israel - Palestine conflict has a lot less to do with the ethnic composition of the sides (at least for the laymen) and much more to do with asymmetry of the conflict and the US involvement in it, which is made worse by blatant gaslighting from Zionists like yourself.

It's obviously far more concerning when a country is launching the worlds most modern weaponry against peasants in aluminum shacks than it is when there is ethnic conflict on a continent like Africa where ethnic conflict is about as commonplace as the soil itself.

 

[Felis Leo]

I think the particular interest in the Israel - Palestine conflict has a lot less to do with the ethnic composition of the sides (at least for the laymen) and much more to do with asymmetry of the conflict and the US involvement in it, which is made worse by blatant gaslighting from Zionists like yourself.

It's obviously far more concerning when a country is launching the worlds most modern weaponry against peasants in aluminum shacks than it is when there is ethnic conflict on a continent like Africa where ethnic conflict is about as commonplace as the soil itself.

Well, what makes this particular genocide so obscene is that we are arming the perpetrators. And not even in a cynical mercenary way like the French were wont to do with their neo-colonial Françafrique project, arming mass-murdering warlords so long as they gave the French and their various companies access to their country's gold or uranium or oil. We are not being paid for our top-grade armaments. We are not even arming the Israelis at cost. We are are arming Israel at our own expense. And then regular American people are being told they are antisemitic for not wanting our one-ton bombs to be used to bomb hospitals in Gaza with pictures of mangled children in the streets as a result.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Since the apparent Jew Haters only talk about Gaza and what they argue is a genocide... I thought I would point out current genocides that they are hypocritically ignoring.

Why? I say it is Jew Hate. It could be something else though... but I thought it would be interesting to see if the hypocrites continue ignoring it after it is pointed out.

Strong evidence that Ethiopia committed genocide in Tigray war: Report

Report says Ethiopia and allies had ‘intent to destroy Tigrayans as an ethnic group’ and calls for prosecution at ICJ.

www.aljazeera.com

US: State Department Determines Genocide in Sudan

The United States government said on January 7, 2025 that it had determined that Rapid Support Forces (RSF) forces committed genocide in Darfur during the current conflict in Sudan. The US government also sanctioned the RSF commander, Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo, for atrocities committed by his...

www.hrw.org

Current Genocides - Tenth Street Times

In countless countries, certain ethnic groups like the Darfurs and Ukrainians have been targets of brutal murders and deaths, otherwise known as targets of genocide. The term genocide means the massacre of a large group of an ethnic ...

tenthstreettimes.waukeeschools.org

Yazidi Genocide Archive

Welcome to the Yazidi Genocide Archive. The Yazidi Genocide Archive is a digital project that commemorates and documents the 2014 Yazidi Genocide, which was perpetrated by the Islamic State in August 2014 against the Yazidi people.

www.yazidigenocidearchive.com

Human rights violations

The State of the World’s Human Rights: Amnesty International Annual Report 2024

The world is reaping a harvest of terrifying consequences from escalating conflict and the near breakdown of international law, said Amnesty International

www.amnesty.org.au

Filipino Human Rights Defenders, Int’l Faith Allies Convene In Rome For Pagtatanim

Over the two days of the conference, speakers and participants emphasized the urgent need for solidarity from communities of faith during the current political moment.

www.scoop.co.nz

Opposing israel's war crimes does not make one a "jew hater".

That is a ridiculous lie that makes the person saying it appear logically iliterate

And what is happening in Gaza dwarfs those other bad situations.....not to mention that unlike the other ones, israel is the single biggest recipient of US military aid.....american taxpayers are giving them the tools to slaughter children and commit other war crimes.

So just stop.

 

[Felis Leo]

Do you have an argument or do you want me to read an unsourced cut and paste in an attempt to find it?

Cut and paste? I wrote my argument myself, with two links, one to Pew Research and another to a crazed Jewish-Supremacist writing for the Telegraph. Do not blame me for becoming too lazy in your old age to read it, Bodi.

If you are asking for sources behind my claims, be specific.

 

[Bodi]

I think the particular interest in the Israel - Palestine conflict has a lot less to do with the ethnic composition of the sides (at least for the laymen) and much more to do with asymmetry of the conflict and the US involvement in it, which is made worse by blatant gaslighting from Zionists like yourself.

It's obviously far more concerning when a country is launching the worlds most modern weaponry against peasants in aluminum shacks than it is when there is ethnic conflict on a continent like Africa where ethnic conflict is about as commonplace as the soil itself.

So the method of being slaughtered is what makes it a bad thing?



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[Gozaburo]

Well, what makes this particular genocide so obscene is that we are arming the perpetrators. And not even in a cynical mercenary way like the French were wont to do with their neo-colonial Françafrique project, arming mass-murdering warlords so long as they gave them access to their country's gold or uranium or oil. We are not being paid for our top-grade armaments. We are not even arming the Israelis at cost. We are are arming Israel at our own expense. And then regular people are being told they are antisemitic for not wanting our one-ton bombs to be used to bomb hospitals in Gaza with pictures of mangled children in the streets.

Yeah, agreed. There's several reasons why this conflict is obviously unique. A lot of it stems from the fact that (unsurprisingly) many Zionists in the US don't truly understand or appreciate how radical the Israeli right actually is.

To call it a "colonial project" is actually far too kind. Many of the colonial nations of Europe did attempt to at least sell their project as some form of noblesse oblige and there were cases where they took efforts to improve infrastructure and quality of life for its subjects, even if it meant totally stripping them of sovereignty.

Conversely, the project in Gaza is a millennia-old biblical level event, the casus belli for which is very religiously esoteric. This isn't Israel conquering land so that they can farm rubber. They're taking land and slaughtering/cleansing its occupants because they believe they are owed it based on ancient prophecies and bigotries.

 

[Bodi]

Well, what makes this particular genocide so obscene is that we are arming the perpetrators. And not even in a cynical mercenary way like the French were wont to do with their neo-colonial Françafrique project, arming mass-murdering warlords so long as they gave the French and their various companies access to their country's gold or uranium or oil. We are not being paid for our top-grade armaments. We are not even arming the Israelis at cost. We are are arming Israel at our own expense. And then regular American people are being told they are antisemitic for not wanting our one-ton bombs to be used to bomb hospitals in Gaza with pictures of mangled children in the streets as a result.

So, what makes a genocide really bad is because the USA arms the bad guys? So if the USA stops arming Israel then what? It is no longer bad?



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[Gozaburo]

So the method of being slaughtered is what makes it a bad thing?

Obviously. It's also more nuanced than just the method of slaughter, but anyone who has interacted with you on this forum is well aware of your selective reading.

 

[Felis Leo]

So, what makes a genocide really bad is because the USA arms the bad guys? So if the USA stops arming Israel then what? It is no longer bad?

It makes it so the genocide stops.

 

[Bodi]

Opposing israel's war crimes does not make one a "jew hater".

That is a ridiculous lie that makes the person saying it appear logically iliterate

I don't think that you know what the word illiterate means... LOL

And what is happening in Gaza dwarfs those other bad situations.....

So, genocide only matters if it is on a big scale?

not to mention that unlike the other ones, israel is the single biggest recipient of US military aid.....

So, if the USA gave military aid to the other killers, it would then matter enough to talk about?

american taxpayers are giving them the tools to slaughter children and commit other war crimes.

So just stop.

So lives don't matter... who funds it does.... LOL


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[Bodi]

It makes it so the genocide stops.

Oh. I didn't realize that genocides that we thought were genocides were not genocides because the USA didn't fund them....


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[Bodi]

Obviously. It's also more nuanced than just the method of slaughter, but anyone who has interacted with you on this forum is well aware of your selective reading.

Instead of trying to insult me perhaps you could elaborate as to what constitutes more nuanced methods then?


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[NolanVoyd]

I don't think that you know what the word illiterate means... LOL

Logically illiteracy, or logical illiteracy, is defined as a lack of knowledge in basic principles of logic and reasoning.

So, genocide only matters if it is on a big scale?

who said that?

You are like one of those people that complains about all the pink breast cancer awareness stuff because colon cancer kills people too, arrent you?

So, if the USA gave military aid to the other killers, it would then matter enough to talk about?

To Amrericans? I would hope they would have a problem with paying for it.

So lives don't matter... who funds it does.... LOL

What kind of selective reading lead you to think that was my position?

 

[Felis Leo]

Oh. I didn't realize that genocides that we thought were genocides were not genocides because the USA didn't fund them....

If the United States stopped arming Israel, that would mean our country's relationship with Israel was so bad we were no longer allies with them.

That would mean Israel would no longer receive our protection either militarily or diplomatically in the U.N. or strong-arming other countries into going along with them like we do with many European Union and Arab states.

That would mean if we turned our back on Israel, the rest of the civilized world and most Arab countries would immediately boycott, divest, sanction and embargo Israel until it stopped massacring the Palestinians.

Unlike other countries that were subjected to severe sanctions and boycott campaigns like Russia and South Africa, Israel is neither fuel or food independent. They are dependent on imports for their survival.

If they were subjected to the international opprobrium they have earned, Israel would fall and fold faster than South Africa.

 

[Gozaburo]

Instead of trying to insult me perhaps you could elaborate as to what constitutes more nuanced methods then?

Do I seriously need to elaborate on the differences between a first world nation shooting hellfire missiles at civilians and tribal warlords with names like "General Butt Naked" waging ethnic conflict with machetes and rusty cold war weaponry?

 

[Bodi]

Still nothing from @Felis Leo or @NolanVoyd or @Gozaburo about the other genocides... just justification about why they want to bash Israel. No concern about genocide. Lots of concern about who they think the bad guys are though.


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[Felis Leo]

Still nothing from @Felis Leo or @NolanVoyd or @Gozaburo about the other genocides... just justification about why they want to bash Israel. No concern about genocide. Lots of concern about who they think the bad guys are though.

Genocide is the worst crime imaginable. We should not arm countries engaged in genocide. We should invade them and depose their governments, or, if that is impossible (such as if they have nuclear armaments), subject them to severe economic sanctions and make any investment in the country illegal.

 

[Bodi]

Do I seriously need to elaborate on the differences between a first world shooting hellfire missiles at civilians and tribal warlords with names like "General Butt Naked" waging ethnic conflict with machetes and rusty cold war weaponry?

Yes. Because dead by a Hellfire missile or death by a machete into the side of your head just after you saw your children killed and your wife raped is beheaded is quite different and sounds a hell of a lot worse than suddenly being blown up without any warning.


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[NolanVoyd]

Still nothing from @Felis Leo or @NolanVoyd or @Gozaburo about the other genocides... just justification about why they want to bash Israel. No concern about genocide. Lots of concern about who they think the bad guys are though.


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Thats a lie.

Review my posts.

 

[Bodi]

Genocide is the worst crime imaginable.

That is debatable...

We should not arm countries engaged in genocide. We should invade them and depose their governments, or, if that is impossible (such as if they have nuclear armaments), subject them to severe economic sanctions and make any investment in the country illegal.

This is not some random genocide with no context. Listening to you guys makes it sound like there has not been 80 years of attacks and tens of thousands of rocket attacks... which, to anybody not slinging bullshit, means they are at war.

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[Bodi]

Thats a lie.

Review my posts.

No.

Show your posts that prove I have lied.

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