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Genius Trump

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Amid busy schedule flip-flopping about virtually everything, Trump heard the news that Hillary Clinton’s popular vote lead now exceeds two million.

Of course, it cannot be. He came out swinging again.

Hillary’s lead over two million? No problem. Make up something again. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-issues-stunning-claim-that-millions-voted-illegally-205918708.html "Trump issues stunning, baseless claim that ‘millions’ voted illegally " Now, I’m in the lead. Math correct, problem solved!

Genius Trump! ...

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He's been making stuff up all along, and it's been working out just great. So, he may as well stick with a winning formula.
 

Trump's Twitter is the best thing ever. I follow him just for the lulz.
 

Its going to be fun having a president for 4 years where you literally can't trust a single word coming out of his mouth because he'll lie about what happened on a video that is playing right next to him while he lies about it.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Its going to be fun having a president for 4 years where you literally can't trust a single word coming out of his mouth because he'll lie about what happened on a video that is playing right next to him while he lies about it.
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...so pretty much like every other politician.
 
Ikari said:
...so pretty much like every other politician.
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Nope, not at all. Bill Clinton lied about getting sucked off by Monica. But then we had a blue dress with his cum all over it and DNA tests at which point he said "yea I did it". If Trump was in that exact same position I honestly think he'd still be sitting there going "I'm hearing that these DNA tests were fraudulent! I've never done anything like this. I would never. People are attacking me, because I'm fixing the system, they don't want this! Do you really think I'd stick it in her? If I was going to cheat I have lots of very beautiful women, the best women, really just the best who would love to have an affair with me, but I'd never do that!" I don't think you could get the truth out of him. Other politicians might back track or try to argue that they didn't mean something in a particular way, but Trump will deny that he said something that he literally just said the day before that we have him on tape saying. This is very very different.
 

Trump grandstands a lot, this is true. But the Clintons, for instance, will always deny things like Troopergate and the plethora of other things we have. As for Monica, he lied through is teeth for as long as he could.

So in terms of being able to trust their word, Trump is on par with other politicians. You cannot trust anything a politician says, particularly an established corporate Status Quo Republocrat like Hillary or Bill. Trump is going to be in that same group it seems.
 

He has not yet flipflopped on things it would be vital he should flipflop.
 

Politicians might deny something that is not proven that could hurt them. Trump has denied many plainly proven things even when the reality of it wouldn't even hurt him. Sorry but I see a very large distinction here. A typical politician might think to themselves before lying "do I think I can actually get away with this lie? Do I really need to lie? If I tell the truth will the backlash be less than if I were caught lying?" Now none of this is correct, but I'd say it's what you'd expect from a typical dishonest politician. Lying when absolutely required for political expediency or to get out of trouble. That's not what we are dealing with. Trump lies cause **** you I want to.

It's the difference between lets say a average fairly honest person and a lunatic. Average person might screw up and cheat on their spouse and then lie and cover that up cause they don't want to get in trouble or they don't want to get a divorce etc. But everything else they will be generally honest with their spouse. We compare this to someone like Trump who lies about everything. This guy would tell his wife he's picking the kids up from school after work and then lie and say he never said that when he didn't get them. Then deny it and attack her when she insists he really said it. And he would lie and say they have plenty of money in the bank and not to worry about it when really the are over drawn and in the hole. Literally every other word out of his mouth could be a lie.
 

All you're talking about is some infinitesimal differentiation of "dishonest", when on the absolute scale both are pegged at "don't trust a god damned thing!".
 

He can't stand losing even when he won. His mind can't process that fact that more people voted for Hilary than him.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Its going to be fun having a president for 4 years where you literally can't trust a single word coming out of his mouth because he'll lie about what happened on a video that is playing right next to him while he lies about it.
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You can keep your doctor, and ISIS is the JV team. So just the same as the last eight years?
 
coldjoint said:
You can keep your doctor, and ISIS is the JV team. So just the same as the last eight years?
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Pointing out a statement that really needed a large clarification and an over-exaggeration doesn't disprove my point or even come close to it.
 
It's not baseless: http://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/271355-approx-3-09-million-non-citizens-registered-vote-many-voted.html.

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Using actual surveys, sound analysis, and accurate math, we know at least 3.09 million non-citizens were registered to vote on November 8th .. and likely many more.

We'll be able to speculate more accurately how many of them were mathematically likely to vote once the final vote count is in and we can finish the proportional analysis.

I know that Hillary-Dem supporters like to fool themselves that non-citizens (including illegal aliens!) didn't vote.

But they can't fool the vast majority, the vast majority who've read the surveys, reviewed the sound analysis, and who can do basic math .. without having their reasoning capabilities distorted by political ideology.
 
Dude, Clinton at this early in the process went on to lie at least twice, twice caught anyhow, in a court of law, perjury in the face of his lies told to the country and in the face of what he knew were the facts. And, he suborned perjury by Monica, obstruction of justice.

Lets not try the usual leftist rewrite of the true history here, I expect you to express the truth.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Pointing out a statement that really needed a large clarification and an over-exaggeration doesn't disprove my point or even come close to it.
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I know that excuses and no accountability are the hallmarks of liberal leadership. I really do not expect to prove anything to you.
 
Is The Donald a Marketing Genius - no doubt
Will he be a good President - nope.
 
Ikari said:
All you're talking about is some infinitesimal differentiation of "dishonest", when on the absolute scale both are pegged at "don't trust a god damned thing!".
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If you hear Obama come out at a press conference and say "I just met with the mayor of blank town. We had a good meeting where we discussed blank topics" is your gut feeling really "Can't believe a word of that"?

Because as far as I know Obama has never made a lie like that. Where as Trump has lied during the campaign about numerous things like that. He got a letter from the NFL, he spoke with really important people in Chicago police, I've never met Putin/I did meet Putin etc. Trumps own lawyers testified in court that they had to meet with him in pairs so that he couldn't lie about what was said later on. HIS LAWYERS said that. This is not a small distinction Ikari. Very very far from it.
 
Good lord, you fell for the liberal media description of Trump hook, line and sinker. Says a lot about judgement.

Probably believed the polls as well?
 
coldjoint said:
I know that excuses and no accountability are the hallmarks of liberal leadership. I really do not expect to prove anything to you.
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I've provided no excuses. I've never said that Obama isn't accountable. I stated over and over again that he should have clarified the statement "you can keep your doctor" during the ObamaCare debate and agreed with politifact when they made it lie of the year. But none of that changes that you didn't address what I said other than to show that politicians do indeed lie, which I've never argued otherwise.
 

Where did I say that Clinton didn't lie? All I said is that when it was proven he lied, he fessed up to it and to lying. Go ask Trump if he has ever said that Global Warming is a hoax by the Chinese. You could show it to him and he'd still lie even though all he has to say is "yea, I put that on twitter thinking I was being funny, what's your point?" but even though it's easy to do that, he'd rather lie.

You think I'm rewriting history but I'm the one pointing out that Clinton lied and I've never denied anything about committing perjury etc. I'm just pointing out that when it was proven that he lied, he finally admitted to it while Trump has been caught in numerous lies where he still continues to deny it.
 
Gaugingcatenate said:
Good lord, you fell for the liberal media description of Trump hook, line and sinker. Says a lot about judgement.

Probably believed the polls as well?
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Please point out anywhere I've been incorrect in this thread. I'm guessing you can't otherwise you would have.
 

You said Trump would be lying for the next 4 years, I said Obama has lied the past 8 years. I gave a few examples. If you wish to demonize Trump try something else.
 
coldjoint said:
You said Trump would be lying for the next 4 years, I said Obama has lied the past 8 years. I gave a few examples. If you wish to demonize Trump try something else.
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The only people Obama has screwed over are the Leftists who thought they were electing a guy who was Left of Hillary and a dove. Centrists like me, loved what we got. And, if I was a Rightie, I'd suggest we build a giant monument in his honor, since he gave you more than you could have ever hoped for.
 
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