Groucho
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This is both the ciricular resoning and appeal to popularity logical fallacy. The Bible is not evidence that your morals are fact, you cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible is fact, and the Bibile's popularity is meaningless in proving facts.
You keep trying and you keep failing. Where are those links to research that prove your position? :lol:
I'm sorry that you misunderstood the fallacy.
Queers can live together happily without lying to children. Try sticking to the argument.
What are the "queers" lying about?
What are the "queers" lying about?
Aw, Cap'n!
I wanna know what he thinks the happily cohabitating "queers" are "lying to children" about.
With the language that you used, here, you would be correct. However, I would rephrase. Homosexuality in and of itself is just a different sexual orientation from heterosexuality, not an abnormality, and factually, there is nothing else beyond this statement. Gay marriage differs in no measurable way from straight marriage, and factually, there is nothing beyond this statement.
I agree but since i havent tried to push my morals has fact the point is moot.
I have only argued its discrimination which it is and my morals have nothing to do with that. In america i clealry understand my morals are not yours nor would i force mine on you and my morals would never be the basis or argument and never were.
Isn't "normal" and thus "abnormal", as understood by modern psychiatry, measured in context with societal norms?
From a psychiatric perspective, yes; but the mainstream psychiatric community does not consider homosexuality to be "abnormal", although it was once classified as such.
It's a variation of normalcy.
Isn't "normal" and thus "abnormal", as understood by modern psychiatry, measured in context with societal norms? While it is factually true that it is naturally occurring and mostly inalterable, the matter of whether or not it is normal is culturally subjective.
As for your second point, I'm inclined to agree. There's no factual evidence that gay marriage differs from straight marriage, outside the issue of sexual orientation itself, which is why I believe it should be encouraged similarly.
Aw, Cap'n!
I wanna know what he thinks the happily cohabitating "queers" are "lying to children" about.
ignored again due to off topic trolling and repeating yourself over and over again but not changing reality and the facts. Already explained to you as to way its CLEARLY off topic and Im dont has others are actually trying to debate the OP.
Thanks take care, good day sir
if you want to debate a new topic start you own thread doing so and i will gladly answer anything you want in that thread.
What are the "queers" lying about?
Nice Straw Man. But again, the Bible is the source of morality as told by Jesus and His disciples. The Bible is also a historical record of both good and bad.OK, so your argument is that the Bible is never wrong? And since it's in the Bible, you think it should be the law of the land?
This is both the ciricular resoning and appeal to popularity logical fallacy. The Bible is not evidence that your morals are fact, you cannot use the Bible to prove the Bible is fact, and the Bibile's popularity is meaningless in proving facts.
You keep trying and you keep failing. Where are those links to research that prove your position? :lol:
Good. As is yours. So we agree.
Nice Straw Man. But again, the Bible is the source of morality as told by Jesus and His disciples. The Bible is also a historical record of both good and bad.
Excellent. Which is why you can neither prove it as factual, nor show evidence that it is better than mine or any one elses. You just proved moral relativity.
Self-pwnage at it's best.
Wrong-o, because the Bible is not merely a popular book, but a guide to millions. I'm sorry that you fail to understand that simple fact.
You're half right, leading you to the wrong conclusion.
We don't base our laws on the Bible. So you can't use the Bible as an argument against gay marriage.
Not to mention Jesus never talked about homosexuality, and I believe homosexuality isn't a sin. And I'm a Christian, what kind of wrench does that put in your fixed morality?
I'm sorry that you can't see past mere science.
We base many of our laws on morality. I'm not against some sort of legal legitimacy for queers in a long-term relationship; I'm against lying about the nature of that relationship. Stop lying about it and we'll be in near-complete agreement. :mrgreen:
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