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Making the kill is the culmination of the hunt. If you can't pull the trigger and make the kill, you're not hunting you're viewing wildlife.The kill is proof that you can steady your nerves, maintain your control, pull the trigger and take a life, so that others can eat of what you kill
It is a recognition of our existence as predators, that we live through the demise of lesser creatures.
If you can't make the kill when you have the opportunity, then you're not hunting. Not making the kill is like not playing a sport to win.
Now, you explain why it is okay for others to kill animals for your pleasure while you judge those who do their own killing
Now, you explain why it is okay for others to kill animals for your pleasure while you judge those who do their own killing.
...They are killing them for my food theres a huge difference between that and bagging threatened Rhinos for fun in Africa. But of course you knew that already
I never quite got why people do this.
They are killing them for my food theres a huge difference between that and bagging threatened Rhinos for fun in Africa. But of course you knew that already
I'm still waiting for your answer. I'm certainly not prepared to engage in your attempted deflection. This isn't about food
It is a simple question.
The answer seems obvious...it's either tradition and/or kill lust.
Both answers are lame and sad, imo.
It is a simple question.
The answer seems obvious...it's either tradition and/or kill lust.
Both answers are lame and sad, imo.
Sigh. Talk about dodging.
It has already been established that the animals being shot in Africa are typically eaten by the locals.
There is a species of Rhino in Africa that is not on the Endangered list, and I'm reasonably certain that's what is being hunted.
Never mind Africa. You apparently hate hunting in general, from the sound of it. You make out like it is all about the sick thrill of killing.
So in Africa the kill is therefore the reason you'd hunt given that you can do everything else involved in hunting with photography or you could pull the trigger of a boresighted laser and simulate your kill. The kill is therefore paramount not the hunt correct ?
So they really went over to Africa to help feed the locals then not to mount some exotic trophy head on the wall ? Is that now your contention ? The locals have been living there a while so I'm pretty sure they will have learned to kill what they need to eat themselves by now
The WWF views the White Rhino as threatened and the Black Rhino as endangered. Given their are only 6% as many Rhinos in Africa as is estimated there were 100 years ago its hard to argue with their contention
I'm not a fan of hunting per se but its the thrill killers of rare and threatened wildlife in Africa and elsewhere that I really take issue with
So they really went over to Africa to help feed the locals then not to mount some exotic trophy head on the wall ? Is that now your contention ? The locals have been living there a while so I'm pretty sure they will have learned to kill what they need to eat themselves by now
The WWF views the White Rhino as threatened and the Black Rhino as endangered. Given their are only 6% as many Rhinos in Africa as is estimated there were 100 years ago its hard to argue with their contention
I'm not a fan of hunting per se but its the thrill killers of rare and threatened wildlife in Africa and elsewhere that I really take issue with
So they really went over to Africa to help feed the locals then not to mount some exotic trophy head on the wall ? Is that now your contention ? The locals have been living there a while so I'm pretty sure they will have learned to kill what they need to eat themselves by now
The WWF views the White Rhino as threatened and the Black Rhino as endangered. Given their are only 6% as many Rhinos in Africa as is estimated there were 100 years ago its hard to argue with their contention
I'm not a fan of hunting per se but its the thrill killers of rare and threatened wildlife in Africa and elsewhere that I really take issue with
The southern white rhino is listed as "Near Threatened" which is only one up from "Low risk" and two short of "endangered", so limited hunting isn't necessarily unreasonable.
Yeah we gathered that. You still haven't explained why you get hysterical about the killing part, and make out like it is sick and twisted, yet you have others kill animals for your pleasure and don't find anything wrong with that.
I eat meat for food not fun
So you don't see the continued hunting of a population that is down to 6% of what it was unreasonable ? The moral bankruptcy of that comment pretty much speaks for itself
I eat meat for food not fun
Therefore animals die for your "fun"... while you criticize others for much the same, just because you don't do the killing yourself.
That's hypocrisy.
No the hypocrisy here is your attempted conflation of the killing of domestic animals bred for consumption with the killing of rare and endangered animals for fun. Indulge that cynical apologism all you like it but it won't ever make such killing morally acceptable.
No sir, the hypocrisy here is you're fine with killing animals as long as it doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities based on emotionalism and not facts.
I'm fine with not killing rare or endangered animals for fun yes :thumbs:
I'm fine with not killing rare or endangered animals for fun yes :thumbs:
Those are some mobile goal posts aren't they? Earlier on you certainly sounded like you had issues with hunting period, now you want to make it about endangered animals.
No that one was all maths actuallyAlready told you the animals in question are not on the endangered list under that classification, but like all the other facts that have been put forward none of that makes a difference to you, because it is all emotion.
Well go have another steak someone else killed for and pat yourself on the back.
That's good, cause no one is forcing you.
BTW, how much do you contribute to conservation of African wildlife?
Well I've been on a couple of fairly expensive Safari Holidays in Kenya so I suspect my tourist coin has contributed in some small way
What do you contribute ?
You suspect your tourist coin, huh? So these hunters, spending many 10's of thousands of dollars have contributed FAR more to the conservation of African wildlife than you'll ever hope to in your life. Damn those immoral bastards! Trying to maintain sustainable herd numbers while you have suspected some of your tourist coin "helped". Why that suspected coin and your internet warrior posts here must make you the superior conversationalist. You know, compared to those who have helped feed poor people in Africa and paying 10's of thousands of dollars into preserves and conservation facilities.
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