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I would say no, he's not particularly honest or trustworthy, which separates him from 99% of the schmucks in Washington ... not at all.
You're kidding, right? Winning the MVP is quite different from someone believing that someone should win the MVP. Similar to Obama winning the award this year and someone BELIEVING that he should have won the award other years.
On this we agree. I would have to wrack my brain and smoke at least a half dozen doobs to come up with the name of a politician I think is "honest" and "trustworthy". And even then, 1 jar of Marshmallow Fluff later, I still probably wouldn't have a name.
some of us don't have metoric expectations of our elected officals, but Obama gave us somthing 2008 that we as a nation badly needed: an renewal of hope.
Mkay. :roll:
I love how offhandedly pointing out a minor quibble with one of Born Free's posts has taken this thread in an ... interesting direction.
No one could be worse than these idiot Dem liberals. Like I said my Dog could do a better job than those idiots. But hey you stay with those idiot liars, lead from behind, scandalous Dems.
I think Bernie Sanders is mostly honest. I always thought Ron Paul was mostly honest, even if I barely agreed with him on anything. Those are the only two that immediately come to mind.
Which was not all that different than what was needed in 1980 when Reagan came along. Yes, I realize Obama promised hope (and change) but sadly, he delivered neither. Hope and change aren't exactly strong platforms.
Eh, politics sucks ass sometimes.
You made the analogy - I'm just playing along.
FDR brought hope back to america when it was facing one of the worst crisis in history. he may not have fully ended the great depression, but today he is remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.
I'll remember that the next time you get on someone for using Media Matters as a source. :tomato:
In reading the link you provided, it does seem like someone other than you, your family, and your doctor will decide whether or not you meet the criteria for life-extending treatments. Perhaps "death panels" was not the best choice of words to use, but they seem apt, because if a group of strangers decides you do not qualify - using their guidelines - you will probably not be given treatment, and you will doubtless die.
It wasn't my analogy, but I'm not uncomfortable with playing it out. The MVP award, like Politifact's Lie of the Year, is a subjective award not something facts based. It's similar to Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 simply because he was breathing. All three are political in nature.
On this we agree. I would have to wrack my brain and smoke at least a half dozen doobs to come up with the name of a politician I think is "honest" and "trustworthy". And even then, 1 jar of Marshmallow Fluff later, I still probably wouldn't have a name.
We've been referring to them as "insurance companies" for quite some time.
In reading the link you provided, it does seem like someone other than you, your family, and your doctor will decide whether or not you meet the criteria for life-extending treatments. Perhaps "death panels" was not the best choice of words to use, but they seem apt, because if a group of strangers decides you do not qualify - using their guidelines - you will probably not be given treatment, and you will doubtless die.
I never had an insurance company EVER deny me coverage for anything.
I never had an insurance company EVER deny me coverage for anything.
I don't get on posters for using Media Matters as a source - I do, frequently, tease Pete about being Media Matters' DP agent since he's constantly posting articles from them, but I do post to the content, not the source. And I don't recall ever posting a WND article before this one, so it's not as if I'm tied to them - but the content seems to challenge your contention that the concept of "death panels" in the ACA is false.
Then you've been fortunate. I am a healthcare provider, and I've seen insurance companies deny coverage more times than I can count.
Then you've been fortunate. I am a healthcare provider, and I've seen insurance companies deny coverage more times than I can count.
they should be sued for fraud, oh how convenient your a healthcare provider and you denied them coverage. Why were you so greedy?
I never had an insurance company EVER deny me coverage for anything.
So you're saying that you see insurance companies honoring coverage for procedures that are disclosed as being covered for some people, and just arbitrarily denying the same procedure for other people with the same insurance?
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