Chagos
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The question remains of whether this is fake:My original comment was on Simplexity's attempt to link the LDPR Shrpygin to Putin by using a cut out of a photo without context, hence my original comment:
"Pathetic. How about you'd provide the full image and the 2010 context in which it was taken, instead of mindlessly spreading fakes generated by your obsession with Putin."
Fallen.
Is it?Lebedev is quoted in the BBC as is his twitter where he congratulates the hooligans, Shprygin has also linked from his twitter on the BBC story of the hooligans being deported after being held at Cannes.
The question remains of whether this is fake:
Is it?
Whatever image from whichever year and out of whichever context was presented, is that what you're gong to dwell on? Or are we talking about the current conduct (of today) of these two?
Because if you prefer to go the former road, YOU'd be the one deflecting.
so I guess the answer toThe fake here is to attempt to associate Shprygin with Putin as Simpleχity tried to do with his first post, that is why he hasn't confined himself to the "current conduct" of these LDPR retards, but provided a specific cut out of an image to link Putin to Shprygin.
So...no, not deflecting, I'm just well aware of Simpleχity's obsession with everything Putin related and the purpose of his posts - he even openly stated it multiple times, it's funny so I occasionally comment on that obsession.
Fallen.
then is "no".The question remains of whether this is fake:
Is it?..........................~
so I guess the answer tothen is "no".
As I've told you many times, if Putin didn't invade, occupy, and annex Ukrainian territory ... he wouldn't have people hating on him.So...no, not deflecting, I'm just well aware of Simpleχity's obsession with everything Putin related and the purpose of his posts - he even openly stated it multiple times, it's funny so I occasionally comment on that obsession.
Simpleχity;1065964589 said:As I've told you many times, if Putin didn't invade, occupy, and annex Ukrainian territory ... he wouldn't have people hating on him.
He's responsible for 10,000 Ukrainian dead, 20,000 wounded, 1,500,000 displaced, and immeasurable infrastructure and environmental damage in Ukraine's Donbas region.
And as I've also pointed out to you previously, you always concentrate on a droplet while ignoring the ocean.
The Shprygin pic? I just posted the first medium-sized pic I found. Want a more current pic ? Here ya go...
The Russian thug Alexander Shprygin
I just heard a report that an injured English fan has died at the hospital. I had heard yesterday that an elderly man was beaten and went into cardiac arrest.
Russian violence on an English fan
State-run doping, thugs, what next from Russia?
Re-establishing focus isn't barking, losing it is barking up the wrong tree....and I never said that the stuff about Shprygin or Lebedev was fake, in fact I explicitly stated: "Pathetic. How about you'd provide the full image and the 2010 context in which it was taken, instead of mindlessly spreading fakes generated by your obsession with Putin."
So instead of barking up the wrong tree there, please learn to read first.
Fallen.
Re-establishing focus isn't barking, losing it is barking up the wrong tree.
specifically.Russian MP Igor Lebedev criticised French police and called on Russian football fans to "keep up the good work".
My original comment was on Simplexity's attempt to link the LDPR Shrpygin to Putin by using a cut out of a photo without context, hence my original comment:
"Pathetic. How about you'd provide the full image and the 2010 context in which it was taken, instead of mindlessly spreading fakes generated by your obsession with Putin."
Fallen.
The Independent uses the same picture in a story about Shprygin as he is on a coach with the 29 being deported. Even uses similar descriptions of him as far-right entity who should not be anywhere near official organisations representing football on the international stage. The picture - for anyone else, Putin going to the rally for Spartak Moscow fan Yegor Sviridov slain in clashes between ethnic Russians and Moscow Russians.
More on the tensions in Russia and racism in football there.
SO, in the end, we have ultras from Russia whose leader shouldn't be anywhere near a self-respecting leader of a country if he is trying to distance himself from some of the nastiest elements in his society. This is all a deflection though - why are these people given passports to travel to a major international football competition?
C'mon. And that is not the sole pic of Shprygin and Putin together. Here is another...It's even worse then, as the the Independent appear to have purposefully cut out the pic to represent Putin near Shprygin.
Simpleχity;1065965800 said:C'mon. And that is not the sole pic of Shprygin and Putin together. Here is another...
Simpleχity;1065965800 said:
When I inquired of you many months ago how you personally justify Putin's criminal actions in Crimea and Donbas, you basically said might makes right.
It was clear then that engaging in continued dialogue with you on the subject was pointless and futile.
~ wtf are "ethnic Russians and Moscow Russians"?!? ~
~ nobody tries to defect from the idiocy of neither Shprygin nor Lebedev ~
Would you be so kind to share where exactly I said so and in what context?!?
Simpleχity;1065967708 said:Russian hooligans: Brawling for the fatherland
Russian Hooligans Are Wreaking Havoc at Euro 2016, But Does the Kremlin Care?
Russian Fan Violence Puts Spotlight On Ultranationalist Supporters Chief
I don't have the time to muddle through your 3,248 posts nor to go through the two rather huge Europe-forum threads about Ukraine (162pp/40pp).
IIRC it was during the period the Russian troll MrFirst/MrSecond (banned) was here. You never could provide a good answer on why you totally ignored his outlandish fabrications.
Roll on Russia World Cup where these guys will be freely roaming the streets and are used to brawling inside football stadiums. The reactions and egging on from quoted Russian personalities is eye opening.
Simpleχity;1065975419 said:
How he was allowed to travel in the first place is beyond me and then how he was allowed into France is even more mind boggling.
Most of our worst hooligans have court and passport orders against them preventing their travel.
Simpleχity;1065964589 said:
Russian violence on an English fan
Bystander apathy at its finest. Let's just mosey on past as though an unconscious, severely beaten man lying bloodied in the middle of the street unattended, is a perfectly natural and normal thing to come across.
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