Not to have law benefits only the very powerful. That is why the capitalists want it: they can kill everyone else and not pay compensation.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
—Benjamin Franklin—
Of the two, its "more" ,not "most".Which do you value most -- freedom or safety?
Strange thinking, IMO.Freedoms are guaranteed though overridden by subsequent legal maneuvers and political shenanigans. Safety is never guaranteed and is more our personal responsibility and personal supervision and constant vigilance than that of any sitting government. Law enforcement and the judiciary as well as medical practitioners merely react to post events while we ourselves can sometimes, not always but sometimes be proactive and interdictive.
Strange thinking, IMO.
You seem to not care for the ways things are done....or do you wish absolute freedoms ?
We are trying to guaranty safety and have been for some time...
A man can drive his motor-vehicle into a bridge abutment at 60 mph and simply walk away..
One can try to take 0.0 ,zero care of his body, but health care requirements will prevent this....its coming...
Cry "FIRE" in the crowded movie theater and laws will protect the "liar",...."he is nuts"...no punishment.
The wealthy may steal from the poor, and they make the laws to protect themselves from recrimination..
So putting that double yellow line down the middle of the street does not prevent bad things from happening on that road every day that thousands of cars drive on it?
No, I really don't find it saves lives. Just like I don't really think speed limits do much anything.
Do you want the 'liberty' (what ever the hell that means,) to drive anywhere you want to on that road? Do you defend the 'liberty' of others to use the road as they please? Or do you believe in laws designed with prevention in mind?
Kind of a pointless question.
No one is saying absolute freedom. Read my original post in this thread. That is what my problem is and you might realize it doesn't pertain to all laws.
Though I would protect the cry fire guy. Almost all of your examples are exactly what I have a problem with, and are tyrannical by design.
Stop Lights are tyrannical by design?
Don't Walk lights are tyrannical design?
Stop signs are tyrannical by design?
requireing seatbelts and motorcycle helments, is tyrannical by design?
requiring smke detectors & CO alarms, is tyrannical by design?
.......perhaps you should take a trip to North Korea someday, and experience REAL tyranny. Cause honestly, you're really complaining about a whole lot of nothing.
...Yes, why should I have to wear a helmet or wear my seatbelt? This isn't even safety of others like some of the other issues that I disagree with, this is just my safety which is even more ridiculous. Why can't I have control over it?
Yes. I shouldn't have to put safety devices in my home or make sure they all work.
And besides they are ****ing annoying. Which one is ****ing beeping?! LETS FIND WALDO!
There is different levels of tyranny.
Strange that I would agree with Henrin ... to a degree.Already dealt with.
Yes, why should I have to wear a helmet or wear my seatbelt? This isn't even safety of others like some of the other issues that I disagree with, this is just my safety which is even more ridiculous. Why can't I have control over it?
Yes. I shouldn't have to put safety devices in my home or make sure they all work.
And besides they are ****ing annoying. Which one is ****ing beeping?! LETS FIND WALDO!
There is different levels of tyranny.
so you believe that The People, should allow everyone to make seriously dangerous decisions that put their lives in serious jeapordy?
I guess this means you believe in the legalization of crack cocaine, heroine, meth, etc?
Yes, I do believe in that. People should be allowed to do what they want unless it DOES result in harm.
oh, so we should have total freedom..unless its harms oneself by your standards?
I put forward the idea that if your action violated the rights of another you should be held accountable but not before that time.
perhaps you should take a trip to North Korea someday, and experience REAL tyranny.
…or New York City.
Mostly free....I'l put that one right up there with tony hayward's 'little people'' and queen pelosi's 'got to pass the bill to know what's in it'.your dog is mostly free.because it has a .....master.Vague generalities lead to inaccurate assessments. In the very broad premise that is presented, if you are dead you have no freedoms, so safety is obviously more important. When looking at the two, there are tradeoffs that have to be made. You can certainly arrive at a position of mostly free and mostly safe where both are acceptable.
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