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star2589 said:I've heard a lot of christians argue that the reason there is suffering in this life, is that the only alternative would be to not have free will, which would defeat the purpose of living.
what about heaven? there is no suffering in heaven, so there cannot possibly be free will. whats the point of going to heaven?
why is there a different attitude toward free will in heaven vs on earth?
star2589 said:I've heard a lot of christians argue that the reason there is suffering in this life, is that the only alternative would be to not have free will, which would defeat the purpose of living.
what about heaven? there is no suffering in heaven, so there cannot possibly be free will. whats the point of going to heaven?
why is there a different attitude toward free will in heaven vs on earth?
Good answer... Allow me to elaborate a little..?kal-el said:Well, when I was a Christian I probably would have answered that in heaven there is free will, it's just that we choose not to sin?
Apostle13 said:Good answer... Allow me to elaborate a little..?
There is free will in heaven. Evident by fallen angels. When one comes to know, experience, suffer the consequences of sin here on earth... Evil doing in heaven should and will become a non-option... As we will have learned from our mistakes.
I'm tunnelin' my way... Just grab a shovel.tecoyah said:Sounds like a lovely Vacation Spot....I would book a room but, they dont let us Blackeys in.
tecoyah said:Sounds like a lovely Vacation Spot....I would book a room but, they dont let us Blackeys in.
Apostle13 said:Good answer... Allow me to elaborate a little..?
There is free will in heaven. Evident by fallen angels. When one comes to know, experience, suffer the consequences of sin here on earth... Evil doing in heaven should and will become a non-option... As we will have learned from our mistakes.
Well, I am not one of those who pretends to have all the answers... And that is a good question.nkgupta80 said:so couldnt god have designed humans to have been born with the knowledge we get when we learn from our mistakes? Then there wouldn't be any suffering.
nkgupta80 said:so couldnt god have designed humans to have been born with the knowledge we get when we learn from our mistakes? Then there wouldn't be any suffering.
star2589 said:I've heard a lot of christians argue that the reason there is suffering in this life, is that the only alternative would be to not have free will, which would defeat the purpose of living.
what about heaven? there is no suffering in heaven, so there cannot possibly be free will. whats the point of going to heaven?
why is there a different attitude toward free will in heaven vs on earth?
Isn't that nice..? Especially in that you are free to believe that... And then able and willing to say/write it here.Mr. D said:What free will? Worship me, or burn in hell? Free will, what a joke!
Rev. said:Wouldn't make any difference...people choose to repeat the same mistakes all the time. They might have learned a lesson, but they choose to ignore it.
Apostle13 said:Good answer... Allow me to elaborate a little..?
There is free will in heaven. Evident by fallen angels. When one comes to know, experience, suffer the consequences of sin here on earth... Evil doing in heaven should and will become a non-option... As we will have learned from our mistakes.
Rev. said:Wouldn't make any difference...people choose to repeat the same mistakes all the time. They might have learned a lesson, but they choose to ignore it.
star2589 said:but people dont choose to ignore it when they are in heaven?
Rev. said:Now you're in the realm of speculation because the Bible simply doesn't tell us enough about heaven for us to now how it works.
kal-el said:What are you talking about? God could be black for all we know. It never says in the Bible, it's just assumed he's white. But he did create man in his own image, so you can roll the dice.
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