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So it's not just capitalism you don't understand, it's the constitution too. Hint: the right to free speech comes from the government, and only applies to the government. Private businesses can limit free speech, such as this board not allowing hate speech and employers wgho don't allow their workers to talk about politics.
There where specific websites set up to get Letterman and Gregory fired, where is the effort to get Glenn Beck fired?
In my opinion, if Glenn Beck's contract is not renewed by Fox it will be about politics and not his ratings; especially since we'll be going into the presidential elections.
Being very liberal is a leaning that is understated. why don't you answer the question? What is it about liberalism that creates such a following that they have selective use of "Freedom of Speech" as apparently it doesn't apply to Beck or anyone else that refutes the liberal ideology? I would love for you to explain capitalism to me since you claim I have no understanding of the concept.
Beck has, and will have even if he is fired, the exact same freedom of speech that he is garunteed under the constitution. Your failure to understand the first amendment is hilarious.
Glad to give you a good laugh just like you do for me. Boycotting Beck Groups are about silencing someone who refutes their ideology and of course Beck has done nothing wrong. Says a lot about you and thanks for the good laugh as most liberals give us all.
No they are not. They are saying that FOX should not give him a platform for his views(not a right). He can still express his views.
Look at it this way, is FOX denying me my free speech right by not giving me a show? If not, then boycotting Beck is not trying to remove his rights.
pretty sure if we look in the multitude of Olbermann threads, we'll see various liberal posters in here claiming firing him was restricting his freedom of speech.
His platform was taken away, not his rights... same with the Beck boycott crowd. Should Beck find himself sans tv show, he's still free, just like Olbermann, to express his views on whatever he wants... he'd simply have to find a new platform to do so... just like Olbermann supposedly is with that low-rent position he took (but has yet to make use of).
They have no say in what a private entity does unless they are shareholders of News Corp. Private business doesn't take orders from leftwing loons. You can boycott Beck by turning off the TV.
If any one claimed Olbermann's rights where taken away, they where wrong.
If you continue to believe the Earth is flat then you're not going to be convinced.
Look at it this way. Just as posters on here who defend Beck will never ever be taken seriously in a debate again, brand managers want to avoid such a fate for their brands.
Liberals won't discuss it with you. Why would they? You've crossed the line from right wing radicalism to fundamentalist crankiness. It would simply be a waste of time. I mean of course the Earth is flat otherwise all the water would just fall off wouldn't it?
Beck is way beyond neocons, Reaganites, earnest Mormons or other conservatives. He is an end of days Christian Talibani. There simply is nothing to discuss. He and his cohorts are enemies of democracy. Those who are intoxicated by his childish political incorrectness cross that line with him. He is a de facto ally of islamofascism, a provocateur and hatemonger who pushes the agenda of global jihad every time he opens his mouth. Osama would love it if the whole US media was dominated by such morons and their friends. He's the enemy within.
Which brand would associate with such a nutter?
How do you know people listen to Beck? Really. How do you know?
I think your ploy in this is pretty transparent. You dislike Beck and everything Conservatives stand for and your feeble thought process has you believing you think you can taint them by associating Conservatives with Beck. It substitutes for real debate. Grade School tactics.
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pretty sure if we look in the multitude of Olbermann threads, we'll see various liberal posters in here claiming firing him was restricting his freedom of speech.
i'm not sure anyone did.....i would like to see proof.
haymarket said:The power of right wing corporatism strikes again. And all the little right wing toadies can now be content that the guy the said nobody watched or listened to has been silenced.
Right wingers here however, and celebrating the silencing of their enemy.
I imagine that most of the right wing corporatist toadies see it that way also. Free speech for them and everyone else gets pushed aside.
They are more concerned with silencing him to the millions who now hear him. Of course, now you will tell me that if KO just raises his voice on the corner and we all lean in the direction of NYCity that we can still listen to him and nobody has been silenced. And in your mind the cause of freedom has been served.
Looks like it was mostly HAy, and the 4 people who voted yes in my poll... so I am correct.
So you have proved that other peope are wrong too. Congratulations.
typically, you missed the point.
I do NOT think anyone has had their rights taken away... i simply stated that others thought so when the Olbermann firing occured. I was asked for proof, and I furnished it. Don't like it, dont read me freaking posts.
You keep saying that like when you suggested a "personal attack". The only serious issue I have is that when someone, anyone...posts rants like you do I call them on it. You've still failed to step up to the mark and only complain. In fact, you've posted that you are not an American. Does that mean you're not an American citizen, born here OR naturalized? I don't get why you think that's relevant, unless you honestly believe that NOT BEING an American gives you some kind of special status to take potshots whenever you want to and not justify anything you say with comments based in demonstrable fact. The only thing on your side is that this country hasn't YET been overthrown by radicals. As I suggested earlier, if most people had your dismissive attitude of perceived and real threats it would have already happened.You have some issues bro, some serious issues...
I don't know what your beef with me is...
But I suggest you take some therapy when it comes to your fear of communists and marxists, for they have no hold in the US.
Welcome Marshabar. Great and openly frank and honest first post. I disagree with the last line, but that's just fine. I can deal with an honest difference of opinion.I think Beck is usually right and he has been very effective in bringing Barack Obama's administration to light, which has helped to slow down his move to "fundamentally transform" our country. Some Socialist czars have had to go. That's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I believe he is helping Obama to keep his promise of transparency.
He is for me, however, VERY difficult to watch or listen to. I can only take small doses.
Welcome Marshabar. Great and openly frank and honest first post. I disagree with the last line, but that's just fine. I can deal with an honest difference of opinion.
You keep saying that like when you suggested a "personal attack". The only serious issue I have is that when someone, anyone...posts rants like you do I call them on it. You've still failed to step up to the mark and only complain. In fact, you've posted that you are not an American. Does that mean you're not an American citizen, born here OR naturalized? I don't get why you think that's relevant, unless you honestly believe that NOT BEING an American gives you some kind of special status to take potshots whenever you want to and not justify anything you say with comments based in demonstrable fact. The only thing on your side is that this country hasn't YET been overthrown by radicals. As I suggested earlier, if most people had your dismissive attitude of perceived and real threats it would have already happened.
I did not say you where wrong. Other people being wrong does not make Conservative right however. Your bringing it is was either a random smeer or an attempt to deflect.
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