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Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

I have an on/off switch along with a channel changer and use them regularly particularly with Ed Schultz and Chris Matthews. That is how I exercise my disgust with their antics.

I too use my off/on switch for both on air personalities. I make sure MSNBC is on for both shows. Schultz is paticularly outstanding and his work on the Wisconsin struggle has been among the best in the nation.
 

Then you shouldn't have any problem proving that Fox News is losing money on the Glenn Beck show? I know that Roger Ailes would love to hear from you. Everything you post is speculation but shows how desparate liberals are to stifle anyone that disagrees with their personal opinions. Didn't see that outrage when Beck was railing against President Bush. Guess you agreed with him then. Let the ratings and the network make that decision.
 
I think everyone is forgetting Fox's role in our society. Propaganda arm of the rebublican party, neokhan sect. If Beck's rantings begin to turn off independent voters he'll be gone like the dodo. Period.
 
Then you shouldn't have any problem proving that Fox News is losing money on the Glenn Beck show?

I did. Loss in major transnational sponsors is loss in revenue. Are you asking for actual numbers to what is a fact of free market economics in the media world? More proof that your work in the business world wasn't above bagging somebody's vegetables. Here, so that you'll quit your lame trolling:


http://www.bnet.com/blog/advertisin...audience-but-news-corp-stands-behind-him/5135


http://theweek.com/article/index/201765/glenn-becks-empire-by-the-numbers


Honestly.
 
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I too use my off/on switch for both on air personalities. I make sure MSNBC is on for both shows. Schultz is paticularly outstanding and his work on the Wisconsin struggle has been among the best in the nation.

Why am I not surprised. Any one that could criticize Beck as a liar, while admitting that they lap up Schultz's daily dose of lies is a poster child for hypocrisy.
 

No, actually you just showed that he has different sponsors now. You presented no proof that he is charging his new sponsors less or that his revenue has dropped.
 

We are going somewhat off topic, and it's a topic of interest to me so it's hard for me to shut up, so...

...It's not that they bought more things, it is that for examples Snickers. They did not want their brand associated with a product where in one episode a woman was made to strip to her underwear and bark like a dog. Mattel needless to say did not want anything to do with anything like what was going on. Now those are two big sponsors and advertisers. Wrestling always had high ratings and in the popular demographic for advertisers, but no one wanted to be associated with WWE.
 

I'll try to explain it a bit better Ockham.

When the WWE was TV-MA they had trouble getting big dollar advertisers. It wasn't that the rating were bad (it wasn't) or that people didn't likely purchase the products, but it was more about imaging and being associated with wrestling and the type of stuff that was put on there.

The WWE has since turned to PG-TV, focusing far more on younger kids and removing a lot of the questionable content. They have now attracted some more "wholesome" companies that are more apt not mind their product being associated with a PG wrestling show and wants to take advantage at its marketing towards younger kids.

I imagine along with that kids are more likely than adults to wear wrestling TV shirts and other sort of merchandise, which I'm sure played into the business aspects of it as wel.

Wrestling changed its product presentation and its target demographic (Moving to children/young teens instead of the 16-30 types). By doing so it POSSIBLY resulted in lower ratings and buy rates of PPV's (I say posibly because there are a number of potential factors) however it lead to increased advertising and merchandise revenues due to the ability to attract higher dollar advertisers and market to people more likely to purchase some of their items.
 

You sure seem to have a lot invested in driving Beck off the air and the question is why? As stated, it isn't your decision to make and since Fox doesn't post data on their financials all you do is speculate. Fox profits continue to set records as do their ratings.
 
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Well, you are sorta right, but mostly wrong. There is nothing wrong with saying that you don't think a TV personality should have a job. If you can get enough people, and more importantly advertisers, to agree with you, you might even get your way. This too is part of that capitalism thing. It has nothing to do with telling any one how to run their business, that is pure nonsense.

His ratings relative to his competitors though as we have shown you repeatedly is only partially relevant. His ratings compared to the ratings FOX thinks they can get in the timeslot, and the number and quality of advertisers they can get with or without Beck is the real issue.
 
No, actually you just showed that he has different sponsors now. You presented no proof that he is charging his new sponsors less or that his revenue has dropped.

I just posted it Beck's weekly loss in revenue. Quit being such a dishonest little boy.
 

Explaining to you the free market is not trying to drive Beck off the air, no more than the people who bitch and moan about every move Olbermann makes where trying to drive him off the air. Less even.
 

Capitalism is about satisfying the customer and making revenue for the country. Beck's ratings top his time slot and triple his competitors and Fox News has record profits therefore IMO they aren't overly concerned about speculation here about whether or not Beck is losing business since no one here knows for sure. A lot here want Beck off the air for their own partisan reasons. Doubt that News Corp is paying a lot of attention.
 

Gill? Conservative?
 
Explaining to you the free market is not trying to drive Beck off the air, no more than the people who bitch and moan about every move Olbermann makes where trying to drive him off the air. Less even.

I don't recall an organized boycott to drive Olbermann off the air.
 

Capitalism is about supply and demand. If the demand for ad space drops, revenue drops. Econ 101.
 
I too use my off/on switch for both on air personalities. I make sure MSNBC is on for both shows. Schultz is paticularly outstanding and his work on the Wisconsin struggle has been among the best in the nation.

Schultz being a big Union guy, his coverage has been especially objective.:roll:
 
I just posted it Beck's weekly loss in revenue. Quit being such a dishonest little boy.

Did you call me dishonest with a straight face ???? Since you added the revenue AFTER I posted my response !!!

Now, if you can only find data from someone OTHER than the group that organized the boycott against Beck, you might have some believable information, but I doubt it.
 
You know, it does not mention Beck at all. Funny that.

Why does it have to mention Beck? Beck is part of News Corp and no one here knows whether or not he is losing money for Fox. We shall see shortly as his contract is up in December
 
Why does it have to mention Beck? Beck is part of News Corp and no one here knows whether or not he is losing money for Fox. We shall see shortly as his contract is up in December

Well, let's see. Let's imagine that O'Rielly pulls in 2 million a week profit, and Beck loses a half million a week. Is FOX making money? So just posting that News Corp is making money has exactly jack **** to do with whether Beck is.
 
Well, let's see. Let's imagine that O'Rielly pulls in 2 million a week profit, and Beck loses a half million a week. Is FOX making money? So just posting that News Corp is making money has exactly jack **** to do with whether Beck is.

Hey, suggest you sell your News Corp stock then.
 
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