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As has been pointed out to you in another thread, no genocide took place in Ossetia. Using the term genocide incorrectly - as you do - does nothing except diminish its intrinsic true meaning.The foto was made August 11, its hero georgian president Saakashvili,
who was brave enough to start genocide of ossetians
As has been pointed out to you in another thread, no genocide took place in Ossetia. Using the term genocide incorrectly - as you do - does nothing except diminish its intrinsic true meaning.
genocide - The Free Online Dictionarygen·o·cide (n.) The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.
genocide - The Free Online Dictionary
Nothing even remotely similar to genocide happened in Ossetia.
You don't quite grasp the concept.From your dictionary:
1. the deliberate killing of a people or nation
2. the deliberate and systematic extermination of a racial or national group
Can't understand what are your doubts?
You don't quite grasp the concept.
The Ossetian people were not systematically exterminated, nor was the Ossetian nation obliterated.
What you are trying to do is equate war casualties with genocide. The two conditions are not at all equitable.
Iranian president Amadinejad has said Israel should be wiped off the map. Saying something and actually doing it are two very different things.Also their first president declared something like that: Osseitians are the garbage that we must wipe out to Russia.
They are indeed casualties of war. What you describe may even be a war crime. But simply because a particular military action may be a war crime does not mean that it constitutes genocide. The casual way in which you interpret genocide means that virtually any war could be considered a genocidal action. This is simply not true.So you think that the tank randomly firing at the civilian buildings and the civilians who might killed by such actions are just the casualties of war?
I was an officer in the military with combat experience. Without an impartial investigation, it is simply impossible for anyone to discern why a civilian building was fired upon. Let me give you an example...Do you think that the artillery and missile fire on the civilian buildings was not intentional?
They ACTUALLY started the war. And you can see it in the links I gave you. May be I'll even opeth a new thread Genocide of Ossetians prior to 2008.Iranian president Amadinejad has said Israel should be wiped off the map. Saying something and actually doing it are two very different things.
What can we say? This horror cannot be told in words. It must be seen. We 3 days were in the basement. Without water, light, food. Every day we were bombed. They throw grenades to the basement, shot people right on the streets, even children.They are indeed casualties of war. What you describe may even be a war crime. But simply because a particular military action may be a war crime does not mean that it constitutes genocide. The casual way in which you interpret genocide means that virtually any war could be considered a genocidal action. This is simply not true.
I was an officer in the military with combat experience. Without an impartial investigation, it is simply impossible for anyone to discern why a civilian building was fired upon. Let me give you an example...
Force A fires on Force B from inside a civilian building. Force B destroys the building. According to the rules of warfare, there is nothing illegal about the action of Force B. Once a civilian building is conscripted for military use (Force A), it is considered a valid and lawful target (Force B) under the rules of modern warfare.
“War casualties” Tashah saying.I definitely know that the town was shelled from the heavy artillery stationed near the Georgian town Gori. I don’t know, I cannot say you now if it was shelled from the other places. I definitely know entire town was under fire from the places located south from S.Ossetia.
I also know that my colleagues who were here inside the town WERE FAR AWAY FROM ANY KIND OF MILITARY OBJECTS, but they were regularly shelled too. I don’t know, probably it was started from some kind of provocation. It was dark, no one could see something and I doubt someone will prove something. But it is not important.
Important is what I know – THE ENTIRE TOWN, FULL OF CIVILIANS, WAS UNDER ARTILLERY FIRE. It is absolutely intolerable that the peaceful town with civilians living here was shelled.
But look at the date when he was allowed to say this in the western media.It was clear to me that the attack was completely indiscriminate and disproportionate to any, if indeed there had been any, provocation,” Mr. Grist said. “The attack was clearly, in my mind, an indiscriminate attack on the town, as a town
Some advice for you. If you ever do this again, I will initiate an MPH grievance against you. The last person who impugned my military service was banned by the Moderator Team. Consider yourself duly warned.“War casualties” Tashah saying.
I guess this is just the face of the US\Israeli instructors who were teaching Georgians to fight in such ways. And all I can say is what I feel a deep sorrow for the civilians when Tashah was as an officer.
“War casualties” Tashah saying.
I guess this is just the face of the US\Israeli instructors who were teaching Georgians to fight in such ways.
And all I can say is what I feel a deep sorrow for the civilians when Tashah was as an officer.
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Tashah said:As has been pointed out to you in another thread, no genocide took place in Ossetia.
Tashah said:You are twisting the interpretation of genocide for propaganda purposes.
Tashah said:You still don't seem to comprehend. Shelling a town is not tantamount to genocide.
Viking said:I guess this is just the face of the US\Israeli instructors who were teaching Georgians to fight in such ways.
And all I can say is what I feel a deep sorrow for the civilians when Tashah was as an officer.
It is true, you, Infinite Chaos, Lerxst and everyone else in another thread told Viking that you didn’t see any proof of anything, thus there was no need to post any proofs anymore, - you wouldn’t not see, as it was proven.
-- Still Tashah is so attractive, especially in a military uniform… Once she posted pics of IDF chicks, they were so hot… I bet there were numerous violations of the code and so much was bought in online stores… Do they have Victoria Secrets in Israel? Infinite Chaos should tell me what should be the color of the underwear …
Tashah can do with me whatever she wants, but there is the only one thing I beg her - is it Victoria Secrets?
who was brave enough to start genocide of ossetians,
The deliberate targeting and killing of civilians is not the same as genocide; it is its own beast.
The Georgian military didn't commit genocide against the South Ossetians; they intentionally targeted and killed South Ossetian civilians in order to provoke Russia into retaliating.
-- Sometimes it is necessary to use rhetoric to stir people from their cozy self-validating western media world.--
As a citizen of the cozy self validating Western World, I prefer discussion where correct terminology is used. I can make adjustments where someone is posting in their second language but I think the term "genocide" was misused in another thread started by these two and they have chosen to misuse it again in this one also.
If you were posting on a different language forum and used a word that was plainly wrong - and then you were told it was the wrong word repeatedly but ignored that - that's one thing however my feeling is that Viking and Justone deliberately continued to use that word for other reasons. If you wish to apologise for them and argue that my problem is simply the word that's your issue.
Anyhow - look at Justone's last post and translate that into plain English if you wish to carry the baton for them.
genocide - The Free Online Dictionary
Nothing even remotely similar to genocide happened in Ossetia.
Did you or Viking post ANY proof of genocide? Saying it was a Genocide and then acting petulant when asked for proof is not the way to convince anyone.
Did any of the international agencies like Amnesty / the UN / International Red Cross / Medecins Sans Frontiers say there was a genocide?
Are you on / off medication?
What was all THAT about?
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