Jose Luis Meneses, a Mexican national who worked as an investigator for ATF at the U.S. Consulate in Tijuana, admitted to buying firearm parts online and at a California gun store and trafficking them into Mexico for profit back in 2017, according to the letter and an ATF memo from the time obtained by Reuters.
The trafficking of U.S. weapons south across the border is a top diplomatic issue in Mexico. Mexican officials accuse their American counterparts of not doing enough to stanch the illegal flow of these guns, which they say help arm drug cartels and contribute to the country's high homicide rate.
Former US firearms investigator illegally trafficked guns to Mexico, government document alleges
https://www.reuters.com/world/forme...y-trafficked-guns-mexico-govt-doc-2023-10-20/
Looks like one reason why the federal government won’t enforce its own gun control laws is their own people are violating them.
What gun laws does the federal government not enforce?Former US firearms investigator illegally trafficked guns to Mexico, government document alleges
https://www.reuters.com/world/forme...y-trafficked-guns-mexico-govt-doc-2023-10-20/
Looks like one reason why the federal government won’t enforce its own gun control laws is their own people are violating them.
What good would a ban do when employees of the federal government are trafficking guns and parts illegally?Yet more evidence for a gun ban.
What's the saying about a government that doesn't obey it's own laws?What good would a ban do when employees of the federal government are trafficking guns and parts illegally?
What gun laws does the federal government not enforce?
Lying on form 4473 is rarely prosecuted and possession by a ‘prohibited person’ is usually left up to state/local prosecutorial discretion.
What good would a ban do when employees of the federal government are trafficking guns and parts illegally?
The way you’re hauling those goalposts around already, it must be leg day.I dare say federal employees have been caught selling drugs
Do you want to legalize all drugs because of that ?
Federal Prosecutors Aggressively Pursuing Those Who Lie in Connection With Firearm Transactions | ATF
OKLAHOMA CITY — The Western District of Oklahoma is aggressively seeking to keep firearms out of the wrong hands by pursuing those who lie in connection with gun purchases. Several recent cases charged in federal court highlight these efforts.www.atf.gov
What GAO Found
Investigations and prosecutions. Federal and selected state law enforcement agencies that process firearm-related background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) collectively investigate and prosecute a small percentage of individuals who falsify information on a firearms form (e.g., do not disclose a felony conviction) and are denied a purchase. Federal NICS checks resulted in about 112,000 denied transactions in fiscal year 2017, of which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) referred about 12,700 to its field divisions for further investigation. U.S. Attorney's Offices (USAO) had prosecuted 12 of these cases as of June 2018.
The way you’re hauling those goalposts around already, it must be leg day.
You don't trust the ATF to tell the truth about themselves?Nonsense. Your link cites only 7 cases (resulting in conviction).
Law Enforcement: Few Individuals Denied Firearms Purchases Are Prosecuted and ATF Should Assess Use of Warning Notices in Lieu of Prosecutions
Individuals who submit falsified information on a form needed to purchase a firearm (e.g., do not disclose a felony conviction) may be subject to...www.gao.gov
Nonsense. Your link cites only 7 cases (resulting in conviction).
Law Enforcement: Few Individuals Denied Firearms Purchases Are Prosecuted and ATF Should Assess Use of Warning Notices in Lieu of Prosecutions
Individuals who submit falsified information on a form needed to purchase a firearm (e.g., do not disclose a felony conviction) may be subject to...www.gao.gov
How about a newer report?I searched 4473 and showed the very first hit which contradicted your broad brush You replied with a 5-year-old study. Have a good one.
I'm not playing a stupid statistical whack-a-mole game today. I posted a link that contradicted the @ttwtt78640 assertion.How about a newer report?
Few Prosecutions For Lying On ATF Gun-Purchase Form
Form 4473 — the Firearm Transaction Record — is a six-page document that must be filled out whenever someone buys a firearm from a licensed firearm dealer. It asks questions including whether the buyer is addicted to drugs, and is the actual buyer of the firearm. A tweet by the Bureau of...www.ncja.org
Because that's not a winning play for you.I'm not playing a stupid statistical whack-a-mole game today.
You've provided a couple of anecdotes. That's not data. We typically see 70k+ denials on NICS checks. In 2010 the feds successfully prosecuted 10. Not 10,000. 10.
I'm not playing a stupid statistical whack-a-mole game today. I posted a link that contradicted the @ttwtt78640 assertion.
Have a good one.
Even WaPo says you're wrong.I'm not playing a stupid statistical whack-a-mole game today. I posted a link that contradicted the @ttwtt78640 assertion.
Have a good one.
I searched 4473 and showed the very first hit which contradicted your broad brush You replied with a 5-year-old study. Have a good one.
Bureaucracies aren't known for being truthful about themselves, they are more known for corruption and political favors.You don't trust the ATF to tell the truth about themselves?
But they’re portable cherries.Like the way you're cherry picking in the way you compare apples to oranges as you go down the rabbit hole with your gas lighting and Sea-Lioning ?
Need this 4473 form is not a background check. When you fill it out and purchase a firearm from a gun dealer that's the only time you need to fill it out. The dealer then calls someone at a federal agency and this someone at a federal agency books to see if you have any records in nics database. Only 20% of records actually get reported to the NICS database.I searched 4473 and showed the very first hit which contradicted your broad brush You replied with a 5-year-old study. Have a good one.
The one that always cracks me up at sea-lioning. That's not a problem that's asking for proof for evidence that's legitimate argument. Cherry picking moving a goal posts false dichotomy those are all fallacies but asking for evidence sea lioning that isn'tBut they’re portable cherries.
But they’re portable cherries.
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