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Former Sen. Edwards launches nationwide anti-poverty effort

Middleground

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Here's a guy that's been shamelessly villified by many (DP, media, radio, etc.)for being such a money hungry, self-centered and selfish jerk.

So now that he's launched a campaign to reduce poverty, it's pretty much fallen on deaf ears. What does that tell you? That maybe perhaps your were wrong in your judgements? That maybe, perhaps, he's actually a good, decent and caring guy who cares enough to walk the walk?

I, for one, am applauding him.


Former Sen. Edwards launches nationwide anti-poverty effort | Associated Press | Times Leader
 
Who is John Edwards?
 
Middleground said:
I guess he'd have to have sex with an intern or solicit sex from a bathroom stall to get some press, eh.
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Well, at least no-one thinks he's money hungry...or at least most people...
 
Edwards is such a phoney when it comes to helping the poor..........
 
It's interesting to see what should be a nice story about a needed and worthy program get bashed by people simply because the name John Edwards is attached. I have no doubt in my mind that had McCain started such a program, the very people posting negatively in this thread would be creating and defending one for McCain.

Personally, I am pleased to see anyone trying to address the issue of poverty....whoever it is.
 
I wish I could bash it, but I vaugely know john edwards. execpt the fact my GF thinks he's hot, damn him! X(
 
Navy Pride said:
Edwards is such a phoney when it comes to helping the poor..........
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I agree, only because I do not think charity solves poverty, or that the Government should be involved in it.

Forced charity isn't charity, and I honestly believe that the private sector can and does do charity better than government. Given that $95.5 billion, or 79 percent of foreign aid, came from private foundations, corporations, voluntary organizations, universities, religious organizations and individuals, says the annual Index of Global Philanthropy. (Thanks for the source Bodhi)
 
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How is it the government is involved here? Is ACORN a government organization?

Edwards was in North Philadelphia on Tuesday to begin a campaign in partnership with ACORN _ the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. It's designed to reduce poverty in the United States by 50 percent in 10 years.
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Middleground said:
How is it the government is involved here? Is ACORN a government organization?
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I was not talking about ACORN, I was talking about NP's statement about Edwards being phony about helping the poor, given his previous appeals to government assistance.

If ACORN is in fact a private organization, then I have no quarrels with it. I only take issue with those who want the government to force charity out of the American people, as if "forced charity" were not a contradiction in terms.
 

How do you descern that his appeals are phony, especially since it seems to be an important issue to him? You just wrote that as a government employee, he did seek government assistance. And now, he's doing it on his own, with the help on a charity.

So again, I ask... how is this phony? Is he doing it for his own personal benefit, you think? Or is it something else, IYO?
 
Middleground said:
How do you descern that his appeals are phony, especially since it seems to be an important issue to him? You just wrote that as a government employee, he did seek government assistance. And now, he's doing it on his own, with the help on a charity.
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It is not "phony" so much as it is a bad idea based on good intentions, that lack economical practicality.

Middleground said:
So again, I ask... how is this phony? Is he doing it for his own personal benefit, you think? Or is it something else, IYO?
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Something else, namely ill conceived economics based on good intentions.
 
Lachean said:
It is not "phony" so much as it is a bad idea based on good intentions, that lack economical practicality.



Something else, namely ill conceived economics based on good intentions.
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Thanks, I'm glad to see that you've revoked the word "phony," as it's not applicable when describing Edwards intentions.

As for whether this venture is ill-conceived, we'll have to see. To me, it's nice to see someone try to fix the problems that we face. I wish him and ACORN luck and good fortune.
 

Pandering at it's most obvious, IMO.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
Did he not learn from what happened when Johnson started the War on Poverty.
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Perhaps they have, and have chosen not to model their current plan based-on what didn't work then? There is so much that can be learned by past experiences/failures, don't you think?

The way you've phrased it, it seems to me that you think there is nothing that will work to stop/prevent poverty. If that's the case, then you're ok with people dying of starvation or exposure because it's a lost cause.
 
Middleground said:
The way you've phrased it, it seems to me that you think there is nothing that will work to stop/prevent poverty. If that's the case, then you're ok with people dying of starvation or exposure because it's a lost cause.
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It is a lost cause. There will always be poor people. Most of them subjects to the failure of political actions of their country. (Africa hmm?)

As for charity, ever heard of Elie Weisal?
This is only my opinion; however, I beleive that in the long run, charity by itself doesn't really do a whole lot to help.
 
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Middleground said:
How is it the government is involved here? Is ACORN a government organization?
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No, ACORN is a bunch of felonious scumbags.


Think about that for a second. ACORN was trying to get away with paying their employees LESS THAN $4 AN HOUR because they said it would make them "more sympathetic to the cause." Right.

ACORN also has an illustrious history of egregious voter fraud committed all over the place:

On September 7, 2004, a Columbus, Ohio grand jury indicted ACORN employee and felony parolee Kevin Eugene Dooley for election fraud.
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In January 2005 two ex-ACORN workers were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
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So yea, partnering with ACORN is just about par for the course for Edwards.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
It is a lost cause. There will always be poor people. Most of them subjects to the failure of political actions of their country. (Africa hmm?)
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That's no reason to stop trying to improve things.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
This is only my opinion; however, I beleive that in the long run, charity by itself doesn't really do a whole lot to help.
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No, it's a stop-gap measure.

If you want to reduce poverty, you improve the infrastructure, enabling more industry, etc, to function.
 
Amazing, Right, that you failed to omit the good stuff that they've done.

Your party, The Rupublicans, are not without skeletons, no? But yet, you're a registered GOP party member who seems heavily involved in ensuring your party wins in the upcoming election. If scumbags concern you so, why are you so involved?

Yup, they might--as an organization--have done some not so good things. Yet they have been around since the early 70s and have done a lot of good. Check out the link that you provided and see for yourself. Or check out their website too. A lot of good stuff there.

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