But how do you change how you feel or don't feel? All you can do is examine your feelings and perhaps talk about it. She is specifically asking help from others in how they have dealt with such things. I'm not sure what else she can do, other than bottle it up or lie about it, which certainly isn't going to help her be the person she is trying to be.
Your post, just to be clear...What are you going on about?
I said he killed out of hate - not out of some religious belief.
So he was not a martyr.
And how is that wrong?
A cause does not have to be religious in nature. Note the separation via a comma.It is you that doesn't know what a martyr is. Or, did you miss the reports of who he was narrowly targeting and why?Well...she does not even seem to know what a martyr is.
'Simple Definition of martyr
: a person who is killed or who suffers greatly for a religion, cause, etc.
Martyr | Definition of Martyr by Merriam-Webster
He did not die for a cause. He died because he was killing people and the police had to stop him...totally different reasons.
Clearly, he just killed out of hate...not because of some higher reason.
You post the definition, and still missed it.
lol!!!reminds me of charles barkley's famous comment that "twitter is where stupid people go to feel important".
So, I was all ready to condemn her but then I went and watched the video. While she says she feels that way she feels guilty for feeling that way, knows it is wrong to feel that way, and doesn't WANT to feel that way. And seems pretty distraught over her lack of sympathy. That is a level of introspection most people don't have. It is hard for me to be too upset with her.
Inner change takes time.The outcome is the key. She didn't change her thinking or feelings or beliefs. She just feels bad about it.
Plus, you don't publically air your innermost psychological struggles.
In the south, we have a saying that fits here very well - "Damn buddy, I don't believe I'd-a tol' 'at one!?!?"
Do you agree with her and if you do....why?
Your post, just to be clear...
A cause does not have to be religious in nature. Note the separation via a comma.
Emphasis in red mine. Quote otherwise unaltered.
Causes, to be legitimate, need to be pre-approved by DA60?He did not have a cause..he just hated white people...white cops in particular. HATE is NOT a cause. That is a sickness.
He was a sick **** who murdered cops. He was NO martyr.
She used the word wrongly.
Or, maybe not. Not everyone is duplicitous.
Inner change takes time.
And why can't someone publicly air their struggles?
Causes, to be legitimate, need to be pre-approved by DA60?
Causes, to be legitimate, need to be pre-approved by DA60?
So, I was all ready to condemn her but then I went and watched the video. While she says she feels that way she feels guilty for feeling that way, knows it is wrong to feel that way, and doesn't WANT to feel that way. And seems pretty distraught over her lack of sympathy. That is a level of introspection most people don't have. It is hard for me to be too upset with her.
Martyr? Hell no. He's a ****ing criminal who got what was coming to him.
Of course not. One black person does not speak for all black people, or even a significant percentage of them.
I do wish that y'all would realize that.
But that's kinda my point. Freedom of speech is only valid relating to government. But if we're only willing to honor the concept in those limited circumstances, then do we honestly believe in the concept at all?Inner change shouldn't be required when it comes to obvious moral and ethical choices. She showed a major flaw in her moral and ethical views.
People can say whatever they want, whenever they want, wherever they want, short of "fighting words" and there's nothing the government can do about it. However, the folks that employ her as a beauty queen are not the government, and that's what I was talking about. She's already a public figure, so she's a target for scrutiny in the first place, and the media even gets a legal pass to criticize her and even potentially defame her because she IS a public figure.
What she showed, that I'm pointing out, was a bad choice to voice her inner struggle openly for the world to see. Any person with common sense should know that doing what she did could or would have adverse consequences for her.
Sure, she's brave, but sometimes bravery, is just stupidity called by another name.
Causes, to be legitimate, need to be pre-approved by DA60?
Sometimes.
Are you actually saying that murdering innocent cops because of the melanin content of their skin, out of hate, is a 'cause' worthy of martyrdom?
What is next? Jeffery Dahmer had a cause to eat people? And Timothy McVeigh's cause was to blow up federal building's? Were they martyr's as well?
...and you are DEFINITELY wrong, again by your own post/link.'Full Definition of cause
1
a : a reason for an action or condition : motive
b : something that brings about an effect or a result
c : a person or thing that is the occasion of an action or state; especially : an agent that brings something about
d : sufficient reason <discharged for cause>
2
a : a ground of legal action
b : case
3
: a matter or question to be decided
4
a : a principle or movement militantly defended or supported
Cause | Definition of Cause by Merriam-Webster
Let me get this straight?
You think someone who is a sick mass murderer, whose only motivation to kill is hatred of a particular group of people - whom he did not know; killed because he had a cause and is a martyr?
Yes or no, please?
I say DEFINITELY 'NO" to both points. He had no cause and he was no martyr. He was just a hate-filled, sick mass murderer.
My, nor your, approval is required for another to be a martyr.
And as for martyr? I never really viewed the word as having a moral conotation. A martyr is just someone who gives their life for a cause. The cause can be just or unjust.
So, I was all ready to condemn her but then I went and watched the video. While she says she feels that way she feels guilty for feeling that way, knows it is wrong to feel that way, and doesn't WANT to feel that way. And seems pretty distraught over her lack of sympathy. That is a level of introspection most people don't have. It is hard for me to be too upset with her.
But that's kinda my point. Freedom of speech is only valid relating to government. But if we're only willing to honor the concept in those limited circumstances, then do we honestly believe in the concept at all?
I say 'no', we don't. We're just kidding ourselves.
...and you are DEFINITELY wrong, again by your own post/link.
He had a reason/motive. The fact that neither you or I approve is wholly irrelevant.
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