Meathead
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- Libertarian - Right
They should put Obama's image on food stamps in his honor.
I would be interested in seeing those number too. I know many people on food stamps who will take you shopping for your groceries and you give them cash equal to 50% of the transaction. Selling food stamps is fairly common. I am not going to estimate a percentage of people who do it, however, I can tell you that there is no shortage of people doing it. If I were to guess, I'd say that 1% was based on convictions.
I would be interested to see numbers. A student quoted in a speech the other day that actual abuses only add up to about 1% of those on food stamps. If true, and as it wasn't my class and no work cited turned into me, than it would be hard to better than that.
And the food stamp fraud rate has more than doubled since the U.S. Dept. of Agriculture's 2006-2008 report, when it was estimated to suck $330 million from the country annually.
Hmm...1% fraud.
Wow.
As others have stated, they don't know the full extent, as they don't keep a lot of records, nor do they have the manpower to do a lot of checking.
And maybe it's just me, but a 3/4's of a billion dollars of wasted money is still a hell of a lot of money wasted. But maybe I see it that way because I don't see the 'rich' as an empty checkbook to write losses off against, unlike many on the left do.
Yeah, a big number.....BUT IT IS A HUGE PROGRAM.As others have stated, they don't know the full extent, as they don't keep a lot of records, nor do they have the manpower to do a lot of checking.
And maybe it's just me, but a 3/4's of a billion dollars of wasted money is still a hell of a lot of money wasted. But maybe I see it that way because I don't see the 'rich' as an empty checkbook to write losses off against, unlike many on the left do.
As others have stated, they don't know the full extent, as they don't keep a lot of records, nor do they have the manpower to do a lot of checking.
And maybe it's just me, but a 3/4's of a billion dollars of wasted money is still a hell of a lot of money wasted. But maybe I see it that way because I don't see the 'rich' as an empty checkbook to write losses off against, unlike many on the left do.
Yes, some people would rather we spend an additional $1B to almost wipe out that $750M loss. Of course, it's incredibly stupid to spend $1B chasing $750M and even more people would complain about all the overhead costs and the "swelling ranks of government workers!" if we did it - but at least no one would get by with fraud! :lol:As others have stated, they don't know the full extent, as they don't keep a lot of records, nor do they have the manpower to do a lot of checking.
And maybe it's just me, but a 3/4's of a billion dollars of wasted money is still a hell of a lot of money wasted. But maybe I see it that way because I don't see the 'rich' as an empty checkbook to write losses off against, unlike many on the left do.
Yes, some people would rather we spend an additional $1B to almost wipe out that $750M loss. Of course, it's incredibly stupid to spend $1B chasing $750M and even more people would complain about all the overhead costs and the "swelling ranks of government workers!" if we did it - but at least no one would get by with fraud! :lol:
translation: its there, I just know it in my gut even if I can't provide proof
Yes, some people would rather we spend an additional $1B to almost wipe out that $750M loss. Of course, it's incredibly stupid to spend $1B chasing $750M and even more people would complain about all the overhead costs and the "swelling ranks of government workers!" if we did it - but at least no one would get by with fraud! :lol:
I have never understood why people use the term 'our morals' unless they belong to a church like the Church of Political CorrectnessSometimes our moral instincts are not logical.
Do you have anything to offer other than putting worths into the mouths of others? (i.e.. anything other than FAIL?)
Who said anything about spending a billion? Oh, you did.
Man, you folks on the left really don't give a crap about fraud and abuse in the system, unless it's a 'system' you don't like or agree with eh?
Some of us stand on principle, that fraud and waste is bad, no matter what system it is in.
Do you have anything to offer other than putting words into the mouths of others.....indeed.
Your "observation" was putting words into the mouths of liberals, who you claimed "don't give a crap about fraud". Yet most if not all have acknowledged it exists, hence, we do "give a crap", the problem most of us point out to you is the scale of it. When the scale is as small as the numbers YOU provided, we know that the cost of reducing the fraud further brings limited returns. The fraud has been reduced dramatically with the advent of debit cards, SNAP programs at the state level seem to be doing a fairly admiral job in combating it. You just seem to have trouble with the PROPORTION as opposed to the GROSS.I am not surprised you do not know the difference between suggesting someone said something other than what they actually said, and an observation. You are failing all over the place.
Your "observation" was putting words into the mouths of liberals, who you claimed "don't give a crap about fraud".
See again the problem is that you stop reading the response. If we did not care then we would not discuss how it is being dealt with.Several in a row made comments about how the % was so small, it didn't matter. My observation was that they obviously don't care. That is not putting words in their mouths. You are no good at this. And the irony meter is heading off the charts considering your moniker.
I'd love to get in the game, but your side makes it impossible to even participate. Death of political competition is one of the first steps to aristocracy. Who am I to vote for? The same folk who caused the problems in the first place? Yeah, that will fix the problem. The Status quo has taken us here and support of the status quo will not fix it.
So instead I participate as much as I can in third party activities, and just count the number of times the founders are rolling over in their graves due to the travesty we have made out of their Republic.
"No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive"
Abraham Lincoln, -September 30, 1859 Address before the Wisconsin State Agricultural Society
"Welfare" began as a program to HELP now it is a program to SUPPORT. The scum that lays in it's own waste screaming when that check doesn't come are typical of all mouth breathers that do not grasp the concept of self support much less bettering their situations. The day is coming when welfare like social security and health care, will begin to shrink to oblivion and those that survived off it will then be forced to lives of crime in order to eat.
Let's talk about welfare, we have way to many on it.
So let me guess....conservative on social issues, but a free-marketeer (economic liberal)?That's not my fault that you people can't sell you ideas, but this game you play will never work. You like bashing Republicans, because you perceive them keeping your candidates out, but that's not the case. Problem is you have a ton of libertarians out there that are basically liberals, and we see them. They're liberaltarians. And then you've got the pot puffing anarcho-nutjobs, that no one takes seriously. To be honest I consider myself more of a conservative libertarian. But I'm not a complete libertarian.
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