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Florida city will pay hackers $600,000

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Florida city will pay hackers $600,000 to get its computer systems back

Riviera Beach’s records have been held hostage for three weeks.




Now why wouldn't/couldn't the DHS and US Cyber Command work on this? Was only the Master File Table encrypted? All files? A hard drive file wipe?
 
Yeah, if they don't have backups to restore from, then they were badly mismanaging their information before the hackers wandered in. That's IT 101 since forever.

Or it was an inside job, and they intentionally corrupted the backups.
 
Yeah, if they don't have backups to restore from, then they were badly mismanaging their information before the hackers wandered in. That's IT 101 since forever.

Or it was an inside job, and they intentionally corrupted the backups.

I know Ukraine was hit hard by Russian (Sandworm group) ransomware in 2017. Most systems were back up and running after two weeks without paying the ransom.

Of course, this is probably a different animal. So far this is costing $1,600,000 in new computers and bitcoin ransom not to mention to hassles involved.
 

Well, it sounds like someone's taking the oportunity to gin up spending for new hardware, on top of everything else. Doubtless 1.6 million will become the low estimate soon.

You don't have to replace the hardware outright. At most, you replace the hard drives to eliminate any chance the virus is still concealed there someplace.
 

I can't answer your questions. But I'd say I'd like to see an actual law forbidding governments from paying ransoms. If potential hostage takers and cyber terrorists know that it's not just unlikely, but legally impossible, that their demands will be met, they won't bother.
 

Well, ransomware extortionists seem to appreciate that logic and mainly squeeze businesses. A business is much more likely to pay and keep quiet about it than a government entity would be so inclined.
 
Well, ransomware extortionists seem to appreciate that logic and mainly squeeze businesses. A business is much more likely to pay and keep quiet about it than a government entity would be so inclined.

It would be possible to pass a law forbidding private businesses from paying them, too. When you think about it, it's interesting that it's illegal for a business to pay off a corrupt foreign official who demands a bribe in order to expedite a permit, for example, since that would be incentivizing criminal conduct by government officials, yet for some reason it's perfectly legal for a business to pay off a ransomware crook or kidnapper.
 

When dealing with cyber crimes, legislation lags behind.
 
When dealing with cyber crimes, legislation lags behind.

True. However, I'd argue that physical hostage-taking is essentially the same question, when it comes to whether there should be a law against paying a ransom. If corporations were legally barred from paying ransoms, there'd be fewer hostage-takings.
 
Yeah, if they don't have backups to restore from, then they were badly mismanaging their information before the hackers wandered in. That's IT 101 since forever.

Or it was an inside job, and they intentionally corrupted the backups.

I'd bet anything that they never backed up a single thing.
I'd bet Baltimore never did either.
I'd bet both places will SAY that they backed up their stuff but when it comes down to the truth...NOPE.

And by "backup" I mean daily OFF SITE backups to a protected server designed solely for that purpose, an off site mirror.
I don't mean just shunting an image over to another PC in the same building and on the same network.
 

Doubtless. I'll guess further they have pristine billing records for their backup services.
 
Doubtless. I'll guess further they have pristine billing records for their backup services.

I know some pretty lazy IT people. But it gets deeper than that. I also know a few IT people who aren't the least bit lazy, but they're hamstrung. They'd like to do the right thing but the place they work is a Catch-22 situation, so what they wind up having to do isn't recommended but it's not their call.
 

I am a pretty lazy IT guy myself, and I know what you mean.

Edit: Sorry, was thinking of the border surveillance hack thread. These just state/local mopes.
 
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