Marxism is discredited. Even its attenuated european form results in workers who have worse conditions and higher unemployment. The US has the highest producing workers in the world and a better standard of living despite not having the unions and socialist baggage europe carries around. There is no better delivery vehicle from poverty.
All stunning facts that neo marxists must deflect to avoid.
European workers are better off. They have free health care not tied to their job, ultimate job security (impossible to get fired), six weeks minimum if vacation, and wages comparable to the USA
No they do not. And they also have much higher unemployment, and pay a much higher percentage of wages to both the unions and govt, and the increased costs are passed on to the consumer. Nothing is free, even if you want free stuff.
Its funny you mention a bunch of marxist dogma.
Sadly, the zero sum fallacy has been sold and bought by too many. In addition, the wealthy and successful have all been stereotyped at evil greedy Wall Street types. I don't see this mindset changing anytime soon and sooner or later, we'll start doing stupid things like the French and the exodus will begin.
And who pays for all of this?
Well, I have a lot of family in Europe so I'm just telling you how it is.
No. Show me data and stats-hopefully to dont intend to appear to be advocating policy without data to back you.
My dad is a european immigrant, we have lots of family still there. Its not all sunshine and rainbows.
Facts, friend-put em up. Its too important for "well people I know say".
Do a little looking yourself and you will see for yourself..
Here's a start..How Germany Builds Twice As Many Cars As The U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice As Much - Forbes
So one or two exceptions make the rule? Explain why the evil capitalist US ends up paying its workers more.
List of countries by average wage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Compare, the average American makes nearly twice as much as in germany, and pays nearly half the taxes.
Well, I have a lot of family in Europe so I'm just telling you how it is. For example, my uncle is an IT help desk guy in Sweden. He lives in a small house with his family, and he and his wife got nearly a year if paid paternity/maternity leave when they had kids, they get all doctor visits paid for by the government, they take long vacations to Brazil every year because they get 6 weeks each, he's got a ton of hobbies because he doesn't work himself to death.
It's a pretty nice life.
Germany is just as capitalist as the U.S. Not really. This is about standards of living not politics. Your politics back a lowered standard of living. Heres where you provide the red herrings.
Do those numbers include family Healthcare and 6 weeks vacation? The German ones do. Ask people here if they would accept HALF their income, and pay DOUBLE the taxes in exchange for 6 weeks of vacation and healthcare. Most people want the choices, and would say no. In fact most all of Europe has universal HC which cost a Family 10 grand here. So those numbers aren't worth a darn.Do you understand that nothing is free? The money to pay for that is taken out of each pay check in taxes, and in lowered income, as well as union dues. We are caught in a race to the bottom with our workforce and we sure don't want to win. Which explains why unions are in decline and yet the US has better conditions and better pay. Zero credibility, just discredited leftist dogma.
No, everyone else stays the same, but the richest 1% take a 20% pay cut.
I agree that hard work should be rewarded. I just don't think capitalism, left to its own devices, rewards people fairly. For example, given what you said you make, it happens to be the case that my own salary is twice as much as yours, and I just turned 30. I also don't work nearly those long hours. Would you say that's fair?
You think you deserve more than the people flipping burgers, but that cuts both ways. I'll tell you what I think - I don't think I deserve to make more than you, and I think capitalism, while having many benefits, tends to reward the wrong people in the wrong amounts all while leaving a lot of good people behind.
Nobody can dispute that capitalism is by far the best system ever created when it comes to generating wealth, on the whole. But this blind faith in capitalism to correctly distribute that capital to the right people is misplaced.
Take a step back and really think about it. If you're born 7 foot tall and you're good at dribbling a basketball, you'll make several times more than a soldier who puts his life on the line for this country. In my mind, it would take some real mental gymnastics to try to justify that one.
Or think about how underpaid nurses are.
I am a Christian, and that's why I believe we need to take care of people first. We're all equal in God's eyes so why should anybody scrape by on barely nothing if they're willing to work? Lord knows, there's a lot of work that needs to be done.
I just think we're way too focused on the almighty dollar and we forget to put people first.
Well, I have a lot of family in Europe so I'm just telling you how it is. For example, my uncle is an IT help desk guy in Sweden. He lives in a small house with his family, and he and his wife got nearly a year if paid paternity/maternity leave when they had kids, they get all doctor visits paid for by the government, they take long vacations to Brazil every year because they get 6 weeks each, he's got a ton of hobbies because he doesn't work himself to death.
It's a pretty nice life.
Five Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For | Politics News | Rolling Stone
In Rolling Stone this former Occupy wackobird gets full coverage with his tripe. Warner Todd Hudson sums it up best in Breitbart:
"Recently Rolling Stone magazine published a story that urges the millennial generation to demand communism in America by eliminating private property, "guaranteeing" everyone a job and turning banks into state property. After finding some opposition on Twitter, the writer let loose some ideas that didn't make the cut of his article: "exterminate" the rich and take away their money and property.After reading the article published on January 3, one thing we learn from former Occupy Wall Street organizer Jesse A. Myerson is that he thinks things are bad in America today. America is so bad--or, as he so eruditely puts it, America "blows"--that he thinks it is time to institute some of the worst communist tropes in the anti-capitalist's bag of tricks, all the same boring ideas that have been proven disastrous everywhere they've been tried for over 100 years."
'Rolling Stone' Writer Wants Communism, Redistributed Wealth
All I can do is shake my head at these people....What is the matter with people today?
You would want a doctor to take care of you that is paid for by the government?
I wouldn't. My health is too important.
It works in other parts of the world, I believe it would work here as well.
You didn't answer my question.
Yes I did, I said universal healthcare works well elsewhere, I'm sure it would work well here too. Of course I would use a doctor who is funded by the government.
Do you think army doctors are incompetent? Who do you think pays their salary?
Oh, you're sure eh? Why?
All I can say is that I'm glad I won't be around when it happens.
Believe it or not there are other ideas than the right-wing stuff you guys regurgitate to each other in your bubble.
The free enterprise system had served Americans, Canadians and the Brits very well but when third parties became involved between patient and doctor services went down and costs went up. All government programs will fail because the public eventually will consider them a 'right', despite what costs and demographics might say.Well, American doctors are the best in the world, in my opinion. On the other hand, there are families in America that go broke because they have a sick kid and the hospital bills just rack up. That should never happen in this country but it does. If you have an answer to that other than universal healthcare I'd love to hear it, because as far as I can tell there is no perfect system - not ours, and not the universal system they have in Canada and Europe. Both have their flaws.
And all those ideas involve using government force to either take what belongs to one person and give it to another or to restrict people's otherwise peaceful behavior.
No thanks.
Well, American doctors are the best in the world, in my opinion. On the other hand, there are families in America that go broke because they have a sick kid and the hospital bills just rack up. That should never happen in this country but it does. If you have an answer to that other than universal healthcare I'd love to hear it, because as far as I can tell there is no perfect system - not ours, and not the universal system they have in Canada and Europe. Both have their flaws.
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