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First 6 Months: Trump Adds $3.5 Trillion To Debt, 10 Million Americans Lose Healthcare

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And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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And the righties cheered it all on.
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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Wait, the OP says 10 million Americans, which is it? Are these American citizens or illegals?
 
Integrityrespec said:
Wait, the OP says 10 million Americans, which is it? Are these American citizens or illegals?
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99.99% citizens.... this idea that federal medicaid is paid to a large number of illegals is idiotic and untrue.

www.factcheck.org

A False Claim About Illegal Immigration and Medicaid - FactCheck.org

A House-passed reconciliation bill would reduce federal funding to states that provide state-funded health insurance to people in the U.S. illegally, resulting in 1.4 million people losing coverage, according to a preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis. But President Donald Trump and...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org

There were some illegals (up to 1.4 million) on certain state programs, but not federal programs.

]https://benefitsbystate.com/blogs/do-illegal-immigrants-get-medicaid-all-you-need-to-know/19752/
 
The new Golden Age as Trump promised has arrived.

I was expecting more glitz.
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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With the slump is foreign tourist visiting the US, the tourism sector is set to decline by 12.5 billion USD. This will result in job losses, with airlines already cutting back on transatlantic routes due to lower demand from the EU.

A drop of Canadian tourist is expected to be 20%, a huge number.

Welcome to Americas Golden Age
 
upsideguy said:
99.99% citizens.... this idea that federal medicaid is paid to a large number of illegals is idiotic and untrue.

www.factcheck.org

A False Claim About Illegal Immigration and Medicaid - FactCheck.org

A House-passed reconciliation bill would reduce federal funding to states that provide state-funded health insurance to people in the U.S. illegally, resulting in 1.4 million people losing coverage, according to a preliminary Congressional Budget Office analysis. But President Donald Trump and...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org

There were some illegals (up to 1.4 million) on certain state programs, but not federal programs.

]https://benefitsbystate.com/blogs/do-illegal-immigrants-get-medicaid-all-you-need-to-know/19752/
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Undocumented immigrants generally have limited access to publicly funded healthcare benefits in the U.S. They are largely ineligible for programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and subsidies through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces. However, there are exceptions for emergency care.
Emergency Medicaid
  • Federal law mandates hospitals to provide emergency medical treatment, including labor and delivery, regardless of a patient's ability to pay or immigration status.
  • Emergency Medicaid is a joint federal and state program that reimburses hospitals for providing emergency care to individuals who meet Medicaid's income requirements but are ineligible due to immigration status.
  • Spending on Emergency Medicaid accounted for less than 1% of total Medicaid spending in FY 2023, totaling $3.8 billion.
  • Much of this spending goes towards labor and delivery costs.
State-funded healthcare
Some states provide healthcare coverage to undocumented immigrants using state-only funds, expanding access beyond emergency care. Eligibility and benefits vary by state. As of April 2025, 14 states and Washington D.C. offer state-funded coverage to children regardless of immigration status. Seven states (California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and Washington) and Washington D.C. also provide this coverage to some income-eligible adults. Some states have recently considered or implemented program cutbacks due to budget concerns.
"AI generated"

Everyone knows money is fungible. Which simply means money diverted for one use can be replaced by federal funds for another use. This happens all the time. If the states got less federal funding, they would very likely spend less on providing illegals with services they can't get through federal dollars. The federal dollars allow this to happen. The bigger problem is illegals in the country getting benefits, such as free public schooling and programs that go with it. While this seems to be a charitable endeavor, just as free hospital care, all must be paid for by someone. These practices encourage more illegal immigration and that's a problem and it's against our law.
 
Lycanthrope said:
But think of all the necessary relief the monied elites got with Donald's fat tax cuts!
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These are not related. Illegal immigration should not be encouraged or funded in any way. It only continues the problem.
Why can't we just follow the law? We have immigration laws, if you don't like them contact your congressman and tell them to fix it. My family has numerous members who are descendants of immigrants, legal immigrants. If you are a democrat, progressive, moderate, whatever, your members have had opportunities to fix this. Whe ACA was passed they controlled both houses and the WH, that's how they got ACA passed. They could have just as easily passed new immigration laws, they chose not to do so. The problem can be fixed but illegal immigration should not be encouraged nor supported with a single penny of federal dollars in any way. IMO.
 
Integrityrespec said:
These are not related. Illegal immigration should not be encouraged or funded in any way. It only continues the problem.
Why can't we just follow the law? We have immigration laws, if you don't like them contact your congressman and tell them to fix it. My family has numerous members who are descendants of immigrants, legal immigrants. If you are a democrat, progressive, moderate, whatever, your members have had opportunities to fix this. Whe ACA was passed they controlled both houses and the WH, that's how they got ACA passed. They could have just as easily passed new immigration laws, they chose not to do so. The problem can be fixed but illegal immigration should not be encouraged nor supported with a single penny of federal dollars in any way. IMO.
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Wasn't there a bipartisan bill once?

What POTUS told his party to scuttle it?
 
Integrityrespec said:
Undocumented immigrants generally have limited access to publicly funded healthcare benefits in the U.S. They are largely ineligible for programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and subsidies through the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplaces. However, there are exceptions for emergency care.
Emergency Medicaid
  • Federal law mandates hospitals to provide emergency medical treatment, including labor and delivery, regardless of a patient's ability to pay or immigration status.
  • Emergency Medicaid is a joint federal and state program that reimburses hospitals for providing emergency care to individuals who meet Medicaid's income requirements but are ineligible due to immigration status.
  • Spending on Emergency Medicaid accounted for less than 1% of total Medicaid spending in FY 2023, totaling $3.8 billion.
  • Much of this spending goes towards labor and delivery costs.
State-funded healthcare
Some states provide healthcare coverage to undocumented immigrants using state-only funds, expanding access beyond emergency care. Eligibility and benefits vary by state. As of April 2025, 14 states and Washington D.C. offer state-funded coverage to children regardless of immigration status. Seven states (California, Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, and Washington) and Washington D.C. also provide this coverage to some income-eligible adults. Some states have recently considered or implemented program cutbacks due to budget concerns.
"AI generated"

Everyone knows money is fungible. Which simply means money diverted for one use can be replaced by federal funds for another use. This happens all the time. If the states got less federal funding, they would very likely spend less on providing illegals with services they can't get through federal dollars. The federal dollars allow this to happen. The bigger problem is illegals in the country getting benefits, such as free public schooling and programs that go with it. While this seems to be a charitable endeavor, just as free hospital care, all must be paid for by someone. These practices encourage more illegal immigration and that's a problem and it's against our law.
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And what of the legal tourist from Canada and the the EU staying away, not a peep.

Do you feel all tingly with billions being lost in foreign tourist spending money 💰?

The new Golden Age Trump promised ?
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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why would they lose health care ?
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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When the D's retake control (House '26, Senate and President '28), the first thing they should do is kill the filibuster. It is undemocratic and protects senators from having to cast votes. Next, repeal or amend the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 and dramatically increased the number of HoR reps. If small population states get one vote that's fine, but high population states should have many more Congressional Districts. The third thing is to make D.C. and Puerto Rico states.
 

First 6 Months: Trump Adds $3.5 Trillion To Debt, 10 Million Americans Lose Healthcare.​

Meh.

Donny once said in 8 years he could eliminate the National Debt, so he still has 3.5 years to do that. Of course I wouldn't expect him to have to eliminate the National Debt portion that President Sleepy Joe Biden ran up, so by January 20th, 2029, Donny should have the National Debt whittled down to about $8.4 Trillion.

As far as Healthcare, Donny also promised Bigger, Better, Cheaper Healthcare for all, eliminating the PPACA to boot, so I am certain he has a plan to implement said Healthcare and cover everyone.

MAGA!!!
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.

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CBO predictions are never right. Trump has only been president for 6 months this is still a Biden economy. The CBO does not account for increased GDP Tas revenues cuts and tariffs. Its more likely cuts will continue GDP will go up revenues will go up and tariffs ill bring in 200-300 billion a year.
 
stealthycat said:
yes I am

are you ?
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I didn't ask how people could lose healthcare. Let me make this as simple as possible. There will be less federal money available to provide healthcare.

Now for the check for understanding. Why are children going to lose a portion of their SNAP benefits?
 
skews13. said:
And both numbers will undoubtedly be much higher.

Over the next decade, the megabill Trump signed on July 4 would increase the federal deficit by $3.4 trillion and cause 10 million people to lose health insurance, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts. While the newly enacted legislation would save more than $1 trillion by cutting federal spending on health care — with the majority coming from Medicaid — CBO predicts that the package’s costs will far outweigh its savings.
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And what if people don't have a lot of confidence in CBO predictions?
Are you going to chastise them because CBO predictions depend on the health of the economy over the next years.?
Who can safely predict that?
 
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