Female Equivalent to Emasculation

[MrWonka]

Emasculation: To deprive a man of his male role or identity.

Is there a female equivalent? No, not really. Some people have tried to concoct one, but there really isn't.

And why not? Because in the minds of the people who use the term a man naturally has something of value to be taken from them, whereas a woman really does not.
They consider the male role to be that of power, strength, control, and providing financially whereas a woman's role is just whatever's left over that the man doesn't have time for.
Depriving a woman of her "role" isn't seen as a bad thing at all. It's viewed as doing her a favor by giving her a break from taking care of the kids and the home.
When someone hires a maid or a nanny to deprive or assist the woman with her so-called duties we don't think of it as something negative you've done to her.

Whereas depriving a man of his so-called duties does in fact have a specific word that is generally used as a negative.
The very existence of the word and the usage of it as a negative thing demonstrates that those who view it negatively have assigned a value to a man's role where the women's has none.
It implies that men have a natural value that they should be entitled to retain and looked up to. Whereas a woman more capable of doing that role in some way harms, injures, or takes away that man's inherent value.

The very existence and usage of the word Emasculate comes from a sexist and misogynistic worldview.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Christ! The world is just so ****ing weird sometimes.

 

[Loulit01]

"Butch"

 

[Bok Tuklo]

"Butch"

I would argue the entire gender-neutral movement in language, "people with uteruses" and the like, is an erasure of women.

 

[BirdinHand]

Perhaps because for basically all of history, women were assigned duties and roles and didn’t have the opportunity TO decide what they wanted to be and what they wanted their lives to look like.

It has only been post-WW2 that women have really had a CHOICE in their role in society. And frankly, that battle and fight is apparently far from over.

Look around. We have a subset of the population that absolutely HATES that women can make a choice as to what their lives look like. They’re threatened by that and are desperate to put women “back in their place”

 

[Antiwar]

I would argue the entire gender-neutral movement in language, "people with uteruses" and the like, is an erasure of women.

Chuckle.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Perhaps because for basically all of history, women were assigned duties and roles and didn’t have the opportunity TO decide what they wanted to be and what they wanted their lives to look like.

It has only been post-WW2 that women have really had a CHOICE in their role in society. And frankly, that battle and fight is apparently far from over.

Look around. We have a subset of the population that absolutely HATES that women can make a choice as to what their lives look like. They’re threatened by that and are desperate to put women “back in their place”

Yeah, now women have it so good that some men want to claim they are women.

 

[BirdinHand]

Yeah, now women have it so good that some men want to claim they are women.

I think we will call this:

Exhibit A

 

[Fishking]

Emasculation: To deprive a man of his male role or identity.

Is there a female equivalent? No, not really. Some people have tried to concoct one, but there really isn't.

There is an equivalent, but there may not be a word for it. There is an aspect of modern feminists that look down on women who like to do the traditional gender roles of house care and having kids. I've seen it first hand.

 

[Rexedgar]

There is an equivalent, but there may not be a word for it. There is an aspect of modern feminists that look down on women who like to do the traditional gender roles of house care and having kids. I've seen it first hand.

“House care and having kids?”



So easy a caveman could do it.


Maybe you could invent/coin the proper term for this phenomenon?

 

[Fishking]

“House care and having kids?”

So easy a caveman could do it.

You think that's easy work? Tell me that you either don't have kids are aren't involved with raising them without saying it.

 

[Rexedgar]

You think that's easy work? Tell me that you either don't have kids are aren't involved with raising them without saying it.

Wow!

Point went over your head…..

 

[MrWonka]

I would argue the entire gender-neutral movement in language, "people with uteruses" and the like, is an erasure of women.

And I bet a rose by another name just wouldn't smell as sweet to you, right?

 

[MrWonka]

There is an equivalent, but there may not be a word for it. There is an aspect of modern feminists that look down on women who like to do the traditional gender roles of house care and having kids. I've seen it first hand.

No, there really isn't. But that is also not even remotely equivalent. It is in fact, the opposite.

When emasculate is used negatively it's to state that a man is being deprived of their role. In your example, nobody is suggesting that the woman's role was taken from her. They would be looking down on her for happily adhering to her role, not losing it.
In either case, it is still the women's role that is being viewed negatively and the men's role that is viewed positively.

 

[Fishking]

No, there really isn't. But that is also not even remotely equivalent. It is in fact, the opposite.

Yes there is, and it's the equivalent.

When emasculate is used negatively it's to state that a man is being deprived of their role. In your example, nobody is suggesting that the woman's role was taken from her. They would be looking down on her for happily adhering to her role, not losing it.

Not a certain group of feminists, and that's the point.

In either case, it is still the women's role that is being viewed negatively and the men's role that is viewed positively.

False.

 

[CLAX1911]

Emasculation: To deprive a man of his male role or identity.

Is there a female equivalent? No, not really. Some people have tried to concoct one, but there really isn't.

And why not? Because in the minds of the people who use the term a man naturally has something of value to be taken from them, whereas a woman really does not.
They consider the male role to be that of power, strength, control, and providing financially whereas a woman's role is just whatever's left over that the man doesn't have time for.
Depriving a woman of her "role" isn't seen as a bad thing at all. It's viewed as doing her a favor by giving her a break from taking care of the kids and the home.
When someone hires a maid or a nanny to deprive or assist the woman with her so-called duties we don't think of it as something negative you've done to her.

Whereas depriving a man of his so-called duties does in fact have a specific word that is generally used as a negative.
The very existence of the word and the usage of it as a negative thing demonstrates that those who view it negatively have assigned a value to a man's role where the women's has none.
It implies that men have a natural value that they should be entitled to retain and looked up to. Whereas a woman more capable of doing that role in some way harms, injures, or takes away that man's inherent value.

The very existence and usage of the word Emasculate comes from a sexist and misogynistic worldview.

I disagree. There is an equivalent to emasculating. Not wanting to be with a woman because she's ran through. This is called slut shaming. Also not wanting to be with a woman who's overweight and this is called the fat shaming.

The differences men aren't allowed to have standards for women but women are for men.

That's not patriarchy I wouldn't say that it's matriarchy either. But when women can make something that makes them feel uncomfortable into a national issue and men can't that's absence of patriarchy.

 

[Aristaeus]

Emasculation: To deprive a man of his male role or identity.

Is there a female equivalent? No, not really. Some people have tried to concoct one, but there really isn't.

Well woman has always been defined as adult human female, and now people are saying males can be women, so I guess their identity has been deprived.

Of course now that males can call themselves women, it means women are no longer allowed to have single-sex spaces either.

 

[Aristaeus]

Perhaps because for basically all of history, women were assigned duties and roles and didn’t have the opportunity TO decide what they wanted to be and what they wanted their lives to look like.

It has only been post-WW2 that women have really had a CHOICE in their role in society. And frankly, that battle and fight is apparently far from over.

Look around. We have a subset of the population that absolutely HATES that women can make a choice as to what their lives look like. They’re threatened by that and are desperate to put women “back in their place”

When women say they want to keep single-sex spaces, this is what they come up against.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It would be nice to have these threads without people just airing their personal grievances about gender roles.

 

[spud_meister]

It would be nice to have these threads without people just airing their personal grievances about gender roles.

The mere suggestion that women exist is enough to trigger some men.

 

[Super Chief]

Emasculation: To deprive a man of his male role or identity.

Is there a female equivalent?

Masculate.

To expect a woman to fill the role generally accepted to be that of a man.

Aka: "wear the pants"...

in the parlance of our times.... generally speaking.

 

[spud_meister]

There is an equivalent, but there may not be a word for it. There is an aspect of modern feminists that look down on women who like to do the traditional gender roles of house care and having kids. I've seen it first hand.

Your equivalent to an old, common and widespread cultural perception is "an aspect of modern feminists"? How the hell do you draw that equivalence, or square it with the fact that, still, the vast majority of women do the vast majority of domestic labour without being "looked down" on by "modern feminists"?

 

[CLAX1911]

Are you emasculation is taking away a person's value as a man. So you can do this when it happens sometimes and people freak out and go nuts over it.

Remember a few years ago we were talking about trying to ban the word bossy. It was probably just some Twitter trash.

But if you call the woman bossy well that's forthrightness and it's not considered feminine so it's "efemulemulating" her.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Somewhere in elitist 'Murica, spread eagled in a tanning bed, lil' Tucker is smiling.

 

[Fishking]

Your equivalent to an old, common and widespread cultural perception is "an aspect of modern feminists"? How the hell do you draw that equivalence, or square it with the fact that, still, the vast majority of women do the vast majority of domestic labour without being "looked down" on by "modern feminists"?

I looks like something went over your head. You should fix that.