Well? Let's just add one more thing to the list of failures in that law.
Kill it, tear it up, and reform the former system to include the uninsured in a more equitable manner.
Drunk with power and an insatiable thirst to make the history books, this cast of socialist clowns completely botched this whole thing.
Healthcare quality has taken a step backward, and costs are soaring for millions who struggled already but don't qualify for subsidies. $100 co-pays and $5,000 deductibles aren't doable for most people.
what is interesting is that this came out of the DC court of appeals which is the one that obama was trying to stack because they were destroying him on just about everything.
i guess this stacking attempt didn't work.
This was only three judges. Lets see if there is a change when/if the full third circuit hears the case.
Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
The ruling just came in and is a huge blow to the obama administration.
The 3 judge panel ruled that only people on state run exchanges qualified per the law.
This could pretty much end obamacare as we know if it the SCOTUS rules the same way.
the administration of course will appeal.
An Executive Order will make things right again.
One that says the United States is in essence one big State.
And then I betcha any number of commentators & posters here will agree.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest said the ruling—for now—"does not have any practical impact" on premium subsidies issued to HealthCare.gov enrollees now. "
"We are confident" that the ruling will be overturned, Earnest said. "We are confident in the legal position we have . . . the Department of Justice will litigate these claims through the federal court system."
Section 36B plainly makes subsidies available in the Exchanges established by states," wrote Senior Circuit Judge Raymond Randolph in his majority opinion, where he was joined by Judge Thomas Griffith.
"We reach this conclusion, frankly, with reluctance. At least until states that wish to can set up their own Exchanges, our ruling will likely have significant consequences both for millions of individuals receiving tax credits through federal Exchanges and for health insurance markets more broadly."
In his dissent, Judge Harry Edwards, who called the case a "not-so-veiled attempt to gut" Obamacare, wrote that the judgment of the majority "portends disastrous consequences."
How bad is it for Obama's folly? You can still require people to buy insurance.
You know that and I know that but if he fails in Court I wouldn't put it passed the guy.in fact the appeals court already addressed that. I am looking at their ruling right now.no way can he do that.
We conclude that appellants have the better of the
argument: a federal Exchange is not an “Exchange established
by the State,” and section 36B does not authorize the IRS to
provide tax credits for insurance purchased on federal
Exchanges.
The government tried to argue that the federal exchange was setup as part of the state. this court followed the law saying that the federal government is not a state.
which invalidated the IRS ruling which basically killed obamacare mandates in 36 states as of right now.
the IRS took a huge broad interpritation of the law. one that wasn't written anywhere.
Man these guys hit this on the head. there is no ideology on this. it is straight up and down legally disqualification of the subsidies.
this is what i say garbage in garbage out. the federal government wrote a bad bill and it is coming back to haunt them.
next time they might read it before the pass it.
as the court ruled there is a direct distinction between State exchanges and federal exchanges and the subsidies were an incentive to get the states to create the exchange and that the federal exchange cannot represent a state in anyway.
that is neither here or there that is the ruling that they passed down. the administration can appeal to full court or they can appeal to the SCOTUS.
not sure which one they are goign to do, but the current ruling is that the subsidies based on the law as written is illegal.
i guess this is why you should read something before you pass it.
In the Daily Press breifing they just said they will ignore the ruling (though im sure it was spun to sound as if they werent).
I understand. But the administration will probably try the full court before going to SCOTUS. Two bites at the apple are better than one.
You know that and I know that but if he fails in Court I wouldn't put it passed the guy.
He's had his IRS act on it and it got shot down and he's changed the Law by E.O. already.
The man is driven to an insane degree ideologically ... but not so Constitutionally.
They can't ignore a court ruling. they have to appeal it. now the court can stay it's ruling depending appeal, but the IRS nor obama can ignore a court ruling.
if they do that is concept and he can be held on impeachment.
he can try but even he can't change the wording in law like that and i am sure if he tried it would be challanged in court again and they should shoot him down again.
2 years can't come soon enough to get this fool out of office.
The Obama administration is certain to ask the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit to reverse the panel's decision, which for now does not have the rule of law.
This decision came from a three judge panel, two of which were Republican nominees. It will almost certainly be referred to en banc review and be heard before the entire court. That's where the stacking will help out Obama and Co in deciding that the law is not what is written but what they wish had been written.what is interesting is that this came out of the DC court of appeals which is the one that obama was trying to stack because they were destroying him on just about everything.
i guess this stacking attempt didn't work.
This decision came from a three judge panel, two of which were Republican nominees. It will almost certainly be referred to en banc review and be heard before the entire court. That's where the stacking will help out Obama and Co in deciding that the law is not what is written but what they wish had been written.
Fed appeals court panel says most Obamacare subsidies illegal
The ruling just came in and is a huge blow to the obama administration.
The 3 judge panel ruled that only people on state run exchanges qualified per the law.
This could pretty much end obamacare as we know if it the SCOTUS rules the same way.
the administration of course will appeal.
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