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Federal Court of Appeals Broadcasts Tariff Trial July 31st, 10AM ET

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What will be a pivotal trial on the fate of Trump's phony "emergency" liberation day tariffs begins and ends tomorrow. Full court (11 or 12) to hear arguments. Being broadcast on court's youtube channel. For information on the Federal Court of Appeals and where to view:

U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit is unique among the thirteen Circuit Courts of Appeals. It has nationwide jurisdiction in a variety of subject areas, including international trade, government contracts, patents, trademarks, certain money claims against the United States...
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ICYMI: Hearing Tomorrow in Trump Tariff Lawsuit—Media Roundtable to Follow - Liberty Justice Center

WHAT: Tomorrow at 10, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit will hear oral arguments in the Liberty Justice Center’s legal challenge to the Trump Administration’s unconstitutional and devastating “Liberation Day” tariffs. Following the hearing, the Liberty Justice Center will host a...
libertyjusticecenter.org
 
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.

Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
 
Mycroft said:
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.

Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
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How and when has Congress "concurred" with trump's national emergency re his tariffs?
 
Mycroft said:
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.

Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
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Your understanding of the law is laughable.
 
why is this settled issue being heard?
Congress gave the power to levy tariffs during "trade disputes" in any way (statute language) to advance trade interest
(i'd have to find the link..off to bed now)
 
Mycroft said:
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.

Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
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this is a "national emergency"?
the court most certainly can have a say in whether this is anything like that.
 
Mycroft said:
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.

Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
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Congress was never even asked. Trump just took the power from them and never looked back. If the court follows the constitution, Trump loses.
 
The AntiDonald said:
Congress was never even asked. Trump just took the power from them and never looked back. If the court follows the constitution, Trump loses.
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He didn't have to ask. All he had to do was tell them. If they objected, then it's up to them to stop him. They didn't object.
 
Mycroft said:
He didn't have to ask. All he had to do was tell them. If they objected, then it's up to them to stop him. They didn't object.
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I would suggest you listen to Neal Katyal who will be arguing this case today. Trump clearly did not have the power to do this. He can't prove the emergency. Without it, he has no authority.
 
The AntiDonald said:
I would suggest you listen to Neal Katyal who will be arguing this case today. Trump clearly did not have the power to do this. He can't prove the emergency. Without it, he has no authority.
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The problem here is that it's up to Congress to decide if Trump did not prove the emergency...not the court. That's why this case should be dismissed out of hand.
 
So, you're saying that because congress has failed to do its job, no one has a right to intervein, and Trump gets all the authority?

That's surely some BS MAGA logic there. Sorry, but I'll wait for the courts to rule on this one. Not saying they won't rule the MAGA way, but if they do, it's because MAGA has taken over the highest court.
 
Mycroft said:
If this court follows the law, they will have to dismiss the suit.
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Because…?

Mycroft said:
Congress gave the President the power to declare national emergencies...subject to concurrence from Congress. The judiciary really has no say in the matter.
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He cant just make up an emergency.
 
anatta said:
why is this settled issue being heard?
Congress gave the power to levy tariffs during "trade disputes" in any way (statute language) to advance trade interest
(i'd have to find the link..off to bed now)
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This is an extreme and false exaggeration of what the statutes say. The President does not have unlimited authority over tariffs.

And just as a general comment, I’m so sick and tired of authoritarian Trump supporters claiming Trump can do whatever the hell he wants. That’s not how system works, and if you guys hate American values so much and want to live in some sort of dictatorship you’re welcome to leave the country and move to a dictatorship any time you want.
 
Ultimately, Congress can limit or expand the presidential tariffs powers through legislation, but the CRS concludes that based on precedents dating back to the time of Chief Justice Marshall, judicial precedent “has given the President broad latitude to exercise his tariff authorities.”

How Congress delegates its tariff powers to the president | Constitution Center

President Donald Trump is expected to announce wide-sweeping tariffs on Wednesday, in a move with potentially broad consequences. So how does the president have the ability to levy tariffs under the Constitution?
constitutioncenter.org

This is going to wind in SCOTUS regardless of who wins or loses.
 
Thank you
 
I don’t know how any lawyer could argue for Trump admin.
 
The sound is terrible; I can't make out half of what is being said. Too bad, I thought this could be interesting to follow but I am struggling.
 
I can’t make anything out other than the judges sound skeptical of Trump admin argument.
 
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