So then, by your terms, a Muslim, Buddhist, Jain, Jew, or even an Atheist, could come into your church and open the sermon with a prayer from their religion?
Using government platforms as a means of voicing one's religious beliefs is a perfect example of exploitation and a very intrusive means of proselytization. It is also elitist and prideful.
You have freedom of religion, you just don't have the freedom to push it on others. Try again.
No... No they are not... How the **** do you get that our of their prayer? Thats a HUGE stretch good sir.By praying to a SPECIFIC deity, they are saying "this is the official religion" in a way.
Why are you blabbering about "The right" and Accusing me of supporting one religion over another?I understand that the right is honor-bound to go on about the "war on Christianity," but you're making a fool of yourselves here. What would happen in this meeting if Muslims ran in and shouted "Allahu Akbar!" Would that be OK? They're just practicing their religion, right?
I have the right to speak, but I can't show up at a government meeting and just start talking; I have the right to smoke, but I cannot show up in a government office and light up; I have the right to have a beer, but I can't pop the lid in a government office.....It is your right to pray--but do it at home, in church, in your car, but not in a government office....
No... No they are not... How the **** do you get that our of their prayer? Thats a HUGE stretch good sir.
What they are saying is, "We are praying" because thats is what is going on.
.The lawsuit alleged that the board’s opening prayers had included unmistakably Christian phrases, such as “the birth of Jesus Christ,” “the guidance of the Holy Spirit,” “the resurrection,” and the “virgin birth.” More than 97 percent of board meetings since 2007 opened with Christian prayers, according to the ACLU
Honestly it doesn't matter what people "think". What matters is reality. I myself am totally against organized religion and semi-against people espousing it. But I will not try to deprive them of thier right just because I think it is offensive because I do not have a right to do so. But many think that they do have that right. Reality is that they don't and in order to force thier belief they are twisting an Amendment to mean something that it never meant.
Why? Because people might find it offensive? Sorry but there is no right to not be offended.
Actually, what people think is important. That is the whole point.
Plus, when a part of a certain religion, such as a prayer, becomes an actual part of the public record, that is wrong.
There is when it comes to something the government is doing. If you were talking about individual people doing something privately or on their own time, then it doesn't matter at all if people are offended. But when something is being done by the government that appears to exclude certain people or endorse certain groups over others, then it does not belong in a public meeting.
No, actually in this case it doesn't as no laws were proposed during that time.
Might want to avoid using money then if you think that.
Did they exclude any other religion? Or did it just never come up?
No, it's stupid because it's telling the other side what they "really" believe. I could write a book saying that when a fascist revolution comes, it'll be from people who read Ayn Rand and think they understand the Constitution better than every Supreme Court justice there ever was.
Now deny it. Maybe I'm just a genius who "understands the principles of a fascist based revolution."
Why should I,as a taxpayer,pay for some politician to display their religion in public setting when they can't even get that giant pothole filled on Mamareneck Rd just outside my subdivision or fix the flooding problem at the Fenimore Rd underpass (which has been a problem for years) heading toward the Scarsdale Country Club?
I get it right from the article in the OP
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Our country is going to **** and people are crying about prayer.....
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
PEOPLE ARE PRAYING!!!!1111!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!
THATS MY .000000001 CENT THAT WENT TOWARDS THAT TWO MINUTE PRAYER!!! I WANT IT BACK!!!!!!
WAHHHHHHHH
The best part is that these aren't hourly employees - they're on salary.
I suppose given that notion these employees must be forbidden to even go to church considering they're on the clock 24-7.
It was a rhetorical question.You don't.
Because you live in New York, and not Rowan County North Carolina.
Exactly.......
But they can't let such facts get in the way.
Whats wrong with God or prayer anyways?
I'll say this much - there have been times in my life where I wanted to beat people into oblivion but I didn't because Jesus teaches us to love our neighbors..
Reminding those who believe that does way more good than harm.
Hell, I cite Jesus as a fundamental reason as to why we haven't engaged in a full blown civil war.
Yes, atheists I do realize none of this is rational in your minds, guess what tho? everyone is not you.
And on the opposite end of the spectrum, maybe some people don't want to sit there and listen to stupid prayers that mean absolutely nothing to them. Why should they have to listen to a bunch of religious mumbo jumbo when they are there for a town meeting?
Well they don't have to sit there. It's their choice to be there.
People shouldn't have to stop what they're doing to please one individual (if I can even call you that).
I'm sure plenty of people didn't enjoy OWS' presence yet I'm sure you would defend their right to protest.
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