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I believe Dan and I have a bet on this issue. The loser having to sport a avatar chosen by the winning party, which I believe is ME...
Soooooo....
Here ya go..
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Abortion is neither inhumane nor barbarous
1) That is rather irrelevant to the claim that murder is solely a legal term
2) seems rather dependent on your view of the fetus
Nice try. SCOTUS has not even heard the case yet. They let the law stand WHILE THE CASE IS BEING ARGUED, by refusing to issue an injunction against the law, while it is being heard by SCOTUS. The case is on the docket, and as soon as a RULING has been made by SCOTUS, I will sport that as my avatar if I lose.
1) It is relevant to the claim that abortion is murder because abortion fits neither definition of murder
2) No, it does not. Medical procedures are neither inhumane nor barbarous. Neither is abortion
the claim I was addressing was that "murder" was solely a legal term ...
Something being labeled a medical procedure does not mean it cannot be rightly labeled "inhumane" or "barbarous". A great example of this would be lobotomy
Your opinion and feelings on the issue are very understandable altho I mostly disagree. I DO respect a woman enough to believe she should have that choice and not be found guilty on this world for it. And YES, God will decide someday. OTOH, as a Christian, I also believe God will understand, forgive, and keep that unborn life just fine.
To make that 'tough' decision for yourself or a woman for herself...is a personal decision. No woman that does not want to make that decision would be forced to.
But to forbid a woman...or want to forbid her....to make her own decisions here is wrong and judgemental IMO. Terrible circumstances or circumstances that may change her life for herself and future children someday....those are for HER to decide, MORALLY and legally IMO. And certainly Constitutionally.
And you just referred to getting pregnant as a crime...therefore once again considering a baby 'punishment.' That is a common theme among people who use religion or other personal beliefs rather than Constitutional rights to judge women. Today's women 'can do the time.' "The time" includes legal abortion which is not murder. It is a responsible option, even tho you do not like it.
Some people choose to attach unnatural emotion and significance to developing life inside complete strangers. Developing life that MAY NEVER even be born. It's more about punishing women than saving lives. I believe in quality of life, not quantity.
Re: abortion for selfish reasons. Aside from an unplanned pregnancy, there is no reason people have kids that is not selfish. No one has kids to 'help populate society.'
1) Abortion is not murder by any definition of the words.Why do you insist on being a complete waste of time for other posters here? Again, the claim I was responding to was that "murder" was solely a legal term 2) as pointed out, how one would define abortion is highly dependent on the debatable point of how you view the fetus.
2) We are not talking about lobotomy. Abortion is neither inhumane or barbarous
Irrelevant: you claimed medical procedures "are neither inhumane nor barbarous". To show that you were clearly wrong I cited a medical procedure that was "inhumane or barbarous"
Since this is all rather obvious, I can only assume this is just more of you intentionally wasting peoples time, pan-handling for attention.
1) It is relevant to the claim that abortion is murder because abortion fits neither definition of murder
2) No, it does not. Medical procedures are neither inhumane nor barbarous. Neither is abortion
Having an abortion when one cannot or will not properly care for a child IS taking responsibility. It is NOT responsible to birth a child you cannot or will not care for or to pawn it off on others to raise.
1) Abortion is not murder by any definition of the words.
2) We are not talking about lobotomy. Abortion is neither inhumane or barbarous
Having an abortion when one cannot or will not properly care for a child IS taking responsibility. It is NOT responsible to birth a child you cannot or will not care for or to pawn it off on others to raise.
WASHINGTON (AP) — A sharply divided Supreme Court on Tuesday allowed Texas to continue enforcing abortion restrictions that opponents say have led more than a third of the state's clinics to stop providing abortions.
The justices voted 5-4 to leave in effect a provision requiring doctors who perform abortions in clinics to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.
The court's conservative majority refused the plea of Planned Parenthood and several Texas abortion clinics to overturn a preliminary federal appeals court ruling that allowed the provision to take effect.
True, but it doesn't look like SCOTUS will overturn the law.
It's a nice avatar. :2razz:
Abortion is neither inhumane nor barbarous
The devil couldn't have said it any better.
1) Abortion is not murder by any definition of the words.
Why do you insist on being a complete waste of time for other posters here? Again, the claim I was responding to was that "murder" was solely a legal term 2) as pointed out, how one would define abortion is highly dependent on the debatable point of how you view the fetus.
Irrelevant: you claimed medical procedures "are neither inhumane nor barbarous". To show that you were clearly wrong I cited a medical procedure that was "inhumane or barbarous"
1. But again, to repeat Dr. C’s post to which you’re responding, it is irrelevant to the claim that murder is solely a legal term.
2. Here, you are responding to the opinion that one’s view of the fetus influences whether you regard abortion as murder. You know that this is so; this is rather a large "duh" in the abortion debate.
And you also know that medical procedures can be inhumane and barbarous and that lobotomy is a good example. Not sure why you're doing this, but you aren't responding reasonably to what Chuckles is saying.
Adults aren't supposed to cling to children's stories.
With all due respect, I see a lot of people say that it's to protect life, and that there is nothing religious about it, but virtually every protest against an abortion clinic I have ever seen was done by a religious organization. Say what you will, but this issue IS about forcing religion down the throats of others.
Adults aren't supposed to cling to children's stories.
Adults aren't supposed to cling to children's stories.
So protecting the life of a child is now religious zealotry.
Rock bottom is getting damn close.
Erod said:...said the devil's operative while waving a dead fetus in the air.
Thank you for proving my point. Want a pitch fork for that devil's operative phantasm of yours?
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