There is an article about all the abuses of the Patriot Act the FBI committed, and the current tactics it takes to get around court oversight, and their history of warrantless searches.
This again does not make them illegal under the law.
A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue.
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.
Please feel free to point out how I ignored it?
Ya, bringing up the constitution is a red herring from the legality of the way these warrants are being issued... If you say so.
Actually, that was not a strawman, because I accepted your argument as a premise, and then tried expanding on that to the ridiculous in order to determine where the line would be for yourself...
Go back an re read your own posts keeping in mind the sources that had been provided, if it's not abundantly clear, well, there's nothing I could tell you to make it clearer.
But now that you've read up on a couple logical fallacies, perhaps you will apply that to future debating points...
Violating the Patriot Act actually is. Subverting the Judicial branch actually is. Some of the warrantless searching does not as the government arbitrarily declared it legal, and I have said as much already.
It did not say they were done by the FBI? You keep talking in broad terms and cutting my comments up and taking them out of context.
Absolutly is. Had nothing to do with anything I pointed out or said.
Which is by definition a strawman, nothing more.
So again you got nothing.
Thanks for playing.
Since you don't even know the point you are trying to make, I'm not surprised that this would be your response.
No, go back to the wiki page on a strawman argument, I wasn't even arguing against that point, I was trying to establish just how ridiculous your position is...
What game?? How little sense can a person make while pretending like they have a valid position??
What I linked was FBI.
Jeeesh... I am correct and you have no idea.
Good day.
Correct about what?? You still haven't made a point, or at least you haven't been able to verbalize that point.
Funny given the attitude you had put off...good day.
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