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Fauci: no evidence anti-malaria drug pushed by Trump works against virus

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Fauci: no evidence anti-malaria drug pushed by Trump works against virus | World news | The Guardian

Trump urges Americans to try hydroxychloroquine

Donald Trump’s top coronavirus adviser has warned again that there is no scientific evidence to support the use of an unproven anti-malaria drug the president has been pushing as a possible remedy for Covid-19.

How science finally caught up with Trump's playbook – with millions of lives at stake

In White House briefings on Saturday and Sunday, Trump urged Americans worried about the virus to try hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat malaria, arthritis and lupus that has not been extensively tested for other conditions.

“Take it. What do you have to lose?” Trump said on Saturday, suggesting he might do so himself after asking “my doctors”.

On Sunday, Trump said America doesn’t have time “to take a couple years” to test the efficacy of the drug in treating Covid-19.
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Taking HC like Tylenol is about as good as playing the lottery.
 

To try it without knowing whether it is effective seems like a pretty big gamble to take.
 
Then let us infect Trump with COVID-19 and put the med to test...Open wide...
 
You can't buy this stuff OTC so doctors are prescribing it. If Fauci doesn't like the idea then that's his opinion but other medical professionals seem to feel differently and it WAS used to cope with other coronaviruses.
 
President Trump REALLY needs to leave medical advice to the doctors.
 

Of course, that same statement could be used to support "No evidence exists to prove (Trump's wonder?) drug is ineffective".


In other words, saying that I can't prove my assertion (e.g. that I was mowing my lawn 5 days ago) does not mean that my assertion has been disproven or lacks validity.
 

Are not tests being done as of now?
 
The Guardian article written 6 April is citing Dr Fauci from 21 March. Since then, hospitals and DRs across the globe have used hydroxychloroquine in combinations with other drugs to great success. This article is like all the other mindless left anti-Trump diatribes aimed at supporting the mindless anti-Trump leftists that alternatively **** themselves over Trump recommending the use of hydroxychloroquine to bemoaning the shortages of hydroxychloroquine.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Are not tests being done as of now?
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Yes, and early results are coming in....slowly.
Results from a Controlled Trial of Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19
 
Lutherf said:
You can't buy this stuff OTC so doctors are prescribing it. If Fauci doesn't like the idea then that's his opinion but other medical professionals seem to feel differently and it WAS used to cope with other coronaviruses.
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What coronaviruses have been treated with hydroxychloroquine?
 
If the patent hadn't expired, I would suspect Trump, his family, or close friends being heavily invested in the patent holder.
 
What about the shortage of the drug where people need it for malaria?
 
ElChupacabra said:
To try it without knowing whether it is effective seems like a pretty big gamble to take.
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It is. But if we can run some real experiments and find out if there is any effect, that would prove useful information. I don't think that's what is being done. But if there's some possibility that this proves useful against Covid, then we should run the experiments and find out.
 
Lutherf said:
You can't buy this stuff OTC so doctors are prescribing it. If Fauci doesn't like the idea then that's his opinion but other medical professionals seem to feel differently and it WAS used to cope with other coronaviruses.
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Which has no bearing on why Trump chose to champion this publicly as POTUS when there is no clinical data to show both efficacy, and how dangerous it is combined with CV19 and other CV19 medications administered.
Why Trump has said he is not promoting it, as he literally followed that up with stuff like "if you want to you should take it".
Which doesn't explain the right wing medias frenzy over this, as opposed to the half a dozen other treatments under clinical trial.

Trump just being irresponsible, you defending it...same old.
 

I would have thought that at some point the politics would stop and a little rational thought would kick in. That doesn't seem to be the case for some people. The idea that we shouldn't try something that, in a clinical setting, appears to do very little harm but could do a good bit of good should NOT be used because Trump endorsed it is insane. The idea that medical solutions should be subject to political will is dangerous and is direct evidence of the real problem with socialized medicine.
 
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