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“Donald Trump, you're asking Americans to trust you with their future. Let me ask you, have you even read the United States Constitution? I will gladly lend you my copy,” Khan said, removing a pocket Constitution from his suit jacket, to roaring applause in the arena. “In this document, look for the words, look for the words ‘liberty’ and ‘equal protection of law.’”
Read more here: American Muslim asks Donald Trump if he has ever read the American Constitution | Fresno Bee
Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/news/politics-government/election/article92511142.html#emlnl=Afternoon_Newsletter#storylink=cpy
Saw that last night; pretty dayem poignant.[h=1]Father of fallen American Muslim soldier offers to lend Trump his pocket Constitution
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Maybe he'd read it if he had a copy.
Or, maybe not.
“Total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.”
IMO the gentleman's point is neither valid nor relevant.
The U.S. Constitution is the founding law of our land; outlining the powers and restrictions on our government, and protections applicable to the rights of our citizens.
The following is the actual published Trump statement turned into the "Ban ALL Muslims" (both foreign and citizen) meme we keep hearing decried by people like the speaker.
Donald Trump Calls for Banning Muslim Immigrants - The Atlantic
Anyone reading it without prejudice would presume he was referring to immigrants and migrants. Yet people with a clear bias have lumped American Muslim citizens into this as well.
Trump has never said anything in any immigration issue speech applying to American citizens, whether of Mexican, Arabic, or any other descent.
Now:
1. The U.S. Constitution is applicable to citizens of the U.S.A.. It does not apply to citizens of foreign nations visiting or seeking entry. What part of the Constitution must we read concerning this?
2. To the best of my knowledge Trump has never said a single word about applying his policy regarding immigration to American citizens who are also Muslims.
People really need to start reading source materials for comprehension, and stop assuming that media reporting is unbiased, when it clearly is not.
"This does not apply to people living in the country, except that we have to be vigilant," he told Fox News
There's nothing in his statement that excludes US citizens. However, he did later clarify:
"This does not apply to people living in the country, except that we have to be vigilant," he told Fox News
Which still sounds like he's suggesting unconstitutional surveillance.
IMO the gentleman's point is neither valid nor relevant.
The U.S. Constitution is the founding law of our land; outlining the powers and restrictions on our government, and protections applicable to the rights of our citizens.
The following is the actual published Trump statement turned into the "Ban ALL Muslims" (both foreign and citizen) meme we keep hearing decried by people like the speaker.
Donald Trump Calls for Banning Muslim Immigrants - The Atlantic
Anyone reading it without prejudice would presume he was referring to immigrants and migrants. Yet people with a clear bias have lumped American Muslim citizens into this as well.
Trump has never said anything in any immigration issue speech applying to American citizens, whether of Mexican, Arabic, or any other descent.
Now:
1. The U.S. Constitution is applicable to citizens of the U.S.A.. It does not apply to citizens of foreign nations visiting or seeking entry. What part of the Constitution must we read concerning this?
2. To the best of my knowledge Trump has never said a single word about applying his policy regarding immigration to American citizens who are also Muslims.
People really need to start reading source materials for comprehension, and stop assuming that media reporting is unbiased, when it clearly is not.
and applying a religious test to immigrants is still unconstitutional, as is much of what Trump proposes. Who, for example, does he think makes the laws? The president?
Maybe one should ask Obama your question of " Who, for example, does he think makes the laws? The president?"
I agree that one should not apply a "religious test" to immigration. However, bet there are ways to find out if a person believes in terrorists groups actions.
So what is your answer to reducing or eliminating the risk of having a terrorist enter this country?
By building walls to keep people out and subverting the Constitution? No, that won't work. How about intelligence to know who is a radicalized Muslim and keep them out?
Wouldn't you have to ask them their religion first? Then ask for their view of that religion?
I agree we need to keep radicalized Muslims out.
Ask them? And expect a straight answer from a radical Muslim?
How do you determine a radical Muslim from a non radical Muslim?
Religion comes into play, does it not?
Not really. Both are Muslims. One is willing to give up their lives to kill infidels. Not all Muslims are radical jihadis, not by any means. If they were, we'd be facing a billion and a half terrorists.
Do you think the American soldier who died in service to his country, or the father who questions Trump's knowledge of the Constitution are radical Islamists who want to attack the US?
You really didn't answer my question of How do you determine a radical Muslim from a non radical Muslim? What you gave was the difference, but not how you would determine it.
As far as your question back at me.. No , I doubt the father is a radical Muslim. Nor are those who have served the US honorable.
Was Nidal Malik Hasan (Fort Hood shooter) a radical Muslim?
Powerful speech, except for the part where he implored me to vote for Hillary when I wanted to vomit. I just can't bring myself to vote for four more years of a liberal Democrat president writing federal regulations and appointing federal judges. Sorry, but I just can't do it. In this case, I'll take the "bigot" over the "crook."
Not really. Both are Muslims. One is willing to give up their lives to kill infidels. Not all Muslims are radical jihadis, not by any means. If they were, we'd be facing a billion and a half terrorists.
Do you think the American soldier who died in service to his country, or the father who questions Trump's knowledge of the Constitution are radical Islamists who want to attack the US?
How do you determine a radical Muslim from a non radical Muslim?
Religion comes into play, does it not?
Um, I suggest you take another look. Rumors abound from die-hard Trump supporters that they do not mind if he was to become "president for life," since they believe without questioning his "Only I can fix America." statement.
How do you determine a pedophile priest from a non-pedophile priest?
How do you determine a drug-dealing black man from a hard-working law-abiding black man?
How do you determine what Trump called raping, murdering Mexicans from hard-working, law-abiding Mexicans?
In other words, the Right needs to learn to stop making assumptions about people based on their outward appearance.
Really?
Then I suppose this quote: "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty," (or some variant of same) which has been used by a number of American political leaders over the years should be interpreted as they were all "suggesting unconstitutional surveillance?" :roll:
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