Farage's vote winner

[Infinite Chaos]

Farage vows mass deportations to tackle small boats
The party's leader - Nigel Farage - has told The Times that there is a "massive crisis" in
the UK, which threatens national security and could lead to public disorder.

Under the plans, people could be arrested on arrival, detained on disused RAF bases
and, if agreements were reached, returned to Afghanistan, Eritrea and other countries
that are significant sources of new arrivals.​

Nigel Farage pledges to deport small boat asylum seekers

Plans outlined by the Reform UK leader would see the country taken out of the European Convention on Human Rights.

www.bbc.com

Even though he previously said mass deportations would be impossible, this to me is the election equivalent of the big red bus during Brexit that promised extra millions would be spent on the NHS instead of going to the EU. Never mind that the Conservatives said they would do the same thing and failed - this is the policy that will appeal to all the potential Reform supporters out there who are fed up of Labour and the Conservatives.

As part of this, he (and many Conservatives) wish to take Britain out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and do away with rights in order to tackle irregular migration. The real jump in migration (immigration) has been legal migration - which the Leave supporters told us was all bout control of borders, widening the pool where migrants could come from to beyond Europe's borders

We're on a slippery and unpleasant slope and we've been here before.

 

[PeteEU]

Deport where?

 

[PeteEU]

Another thing.. from what I can read, one of the biggest groups seeking asylum are Pakistani.. WTF? They should be instantly deported back to Pakistan. No country in Europe should be accepting Pakistanis or Indians, or freaking Nigerians as asylum seekers.

This is the main thing that pisses me off about European/world asylum rules. They allow people from non war zones and non dictatorships to seek asylum. Sorry but that aint how things should work and it only feeds that neo nazis like Farage.

Take the Syrians. Syria is technically a safe country again and refugees from here should be preparing to return. Sure give them a lump sum to help them, but home they must go. I know many are going back.... but it should be announced as an official policy.

You can to do that with Afghans, becuase.. hello Taliban. Same with Iranians... cant send them back to be executed.. even though my own country does do that.

Iraqis.. GO HOME! Your country is a mess yes, but it has been relatively peaceful for almost a decade. Go the **** home.

It is often this simple. So tired of this crap because it is the perfect fuel for ignorant stupid people like Frarage and his nazi gangs.

 

[joluoto]

They are deported, but first their asylun application need to be processed, everyone has the right to seek asylum, not everyone will have their application approved.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Deport where?

It's in the article:

"returned to Afghanistan, Eritrea and other countries that are significant sources of arrivals."
​

I agree that many should be returned but after their application has been completed. For some reason, the decision making time on Asylum applications worsened in 2017 and it's not improved since despite all sorts of initiatives being thrown at it.

Quite possibly, lots of experienced decision makers were laid off.

 

[joluoto]

For example returning Eritreans probably would endanger their lives. That regime is brutal.

 

[PeteEU]

It's in the article:

"returned to Afghanistan, Eritrea and other countries that are significant sources of arrivals."​

Yea but you aint returning them to those places.. so he must mean "Rawanda" like shit, or what the US is doing.. South Sudan.

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I agree that many should be returned but after their application has been completed. For some reason, the decision making time on Asylum applications worsened in 2017 and it's not improved since despite all sorts of initiatives being thrown at it.

Quite possibly, lots of experienced decision makers were laid off.

Could be. Or that the system is too complicated.

For example.. any Pakistani wanting asylum.. insta denied. Any Nigerian.. insta denied. Hearing is 5 minutes at most.

 

[Real blank]

Yea but you aint returning them to those places.. so he must mean "Rawanda" like shit, or what the US is doing.. South Sudan.


Could be. Or that the system is too complicated.

For example.. any Pakistani wanting asylum.. insta denied. Any Nigerian.. insta denied. Hearing is 5 minutes at most.

Through the legal system very few people ever get deported

 

[Juin]

Through the legal system very few people ever get deported

So, bottomline, Europeans have legal systems that are unable to control immigration. There's a big bureaucracy pushing tons of papers but at the end of the day there's hardly a dent! That may also explain the rise of right wing parties

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Yea but you aint returning them to those places.. so he must mean "Rawanda" like shit, or what the US is doing.. South Sudan.

We'll find out with questioning (if the media do their job and start asking deeper questions).
At the heart of the issue though is that asylum seekers are a microscopic proportion of immigration into the UK each year. Compared to what the stated aim of Brexit was, the numbers in small boat crossings compared to people who legally come here to work / study etc is where this all fell apart. Between 2019 and 2025, the numbers of legal migration exploded.

Through the legal system very few people ever get deported

Didn't the flow of Albanians stop?

That may also explain the rise of right wing parties

Brexit happened under a right wing govt, although the campaign was cross party - it's clear where the majority of public opinion lay and then the explosion of legal migration also happened under a right wing government.
If you remember - as soon as Labour got in last year, people in social media were trying to blame them for migration and illegal boat crossings.

 

[PeteEU]

We'll find out with questioning (if the media do their job and start asking deeper questions).
At the heart of the issue though is that asylum seekers are a microscopic proportion of immigration into the UK each year. Compared to what the stated aim of Brexit was, the numbers in small boat crossings compared to people who legally come here to work / study etc is where this all fell apart. Between 2019 and 2025, the numbers of legal migration exploded.

You know as well as I do that won't happen. If the media have not started to distinguish between legal migration, refugees and actual illegal immigrants...then frankly they are not going to do it now. Hence they won't point out the actual facts and they will either play directly into Farage and his Nazi friends hands or out right back them.

 

[Peter]

Deport where?

In a cruel twist of irony we're going to deport people to the US.

 

[Juin]

In a cruel twist of irony we're going to deport people to the US.

What happened to Australia?

 

[Peter]

What happened to Australia?

We aren't made of money.

 

[PeteEU]

In a cruel twist of irony we're going to deport people to the US.

Start with Boris.. he is born there after all.

 

[Juin]

Start with Boris.. he is born there after all.

Boris may be eligible for deportation to Turkey. There are Turks in his ancestry. But his disheveled head alone may cause Turks to reject him

 

[Aristaeus]

Yea but you aint returning them to those places.. so he must mean "Rawanda" like shit, or what the US is doing.. South Sudan.

No, they really do mean sending Afghanis back to Afghanistan. They even suggested they give the Taliban taxpayers money to persuade them to accept the returned immigrants.

Reform could pay Taliban to take back migrants, senior party figure suggests​

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Zia Yusuf also suggested that a Reform government would pay the Taliban to accept the return of migrants who entered Britain illegally.

Asked how Reform would persuade countries to take back illegal migrants, Yusuf said simply: “We have a £2bn budget to offer countries”. Today presenter Anna Foster said this figure was a “drop in the ocean”, something Yusuf took issue with. He replied:

Not really. It’s not a drop in the ocean to Afghanistan. Certainly not a drop in the ocean for Eritrea, the two countries that are top of the list of boat crossings …

 

[Aristaeus]

Yea but you aint returning them to those places.. so he must mean "Rawanda" like shit, or what the US is doing.. South Sudan.


Could be. Or that the system is too complicated.

For example.. any Pakistani wanting asylum.. insta denied. Any Nigerian.. insta denied. Hearing is 5 minutes at most.

What about a gay man seeking asylum from Nigeria where homosexuality can result in a 14 year prison sentence? Or a young woman fleeing Pakistan to avoid a forced marriage?

 

[PeteEU]

What about a gay man seeking asylum from Nigeria where homosexuality can result in a 14 year prison sentence? Or a young woman fleeing Pakistan to avoid a forced marriage?

So 1 or 2 out of the thousands.. My point is, that most of them are NOT this, and it is bloody obvious. For one there are very few females in the refugee system because it is so dangerous, and if there comes a female from Pakistan, then well.. Chances are it is man, and that he aint gay.

 

[PeteEU]

No, they really do mean sending Afghanis back to Afghanistan. They even suggested they give the Taliban taxpayers money to persuade them to accept the returned immigrants.

Reform could pay Taliban to take back migrants, senior party figure suggests​

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Zia Yusuf also suggested that a Reform government would pay the Taliban to accept the return of migrants who entered Britain illegally.

Asked how Reform would persuade countries to take back illegal migrants, Yusuf said simply: “We have a £2bn budget to offer countries”. Today presenter Anna Foster said this figure was a “drop in the ocean”, something Yusuf took issue with. He replied:

Would not surprise me at all.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Reform could pay Taliban to take back migrants

Why don't they go the whole hog and return the ones who helped the British military in Afghanistan too? Also give the Taleban names and addresses of all their families so they can all be dealt with in one mass killing event..

Appalling to think about sending people back to the Taleban.

 

[Evilroddy]

Deport the Franco-Hunnic Farage to Doncaster, Stoke-on-Trent, or Bradford Rwanda and then exile him. Problem solved.

Be well and be safe.
Evilroddy.

 

[Luce]

Farage vows mass deportations to tackle small boats
The party's leader - Nigel Farage - has told The Times that there is a "massive crisis" in
the UK, which threatens national security and could lead to public disorder.

Under the plans, people could be arrested on arrival, detained on disused RAF bases
and, if agreements were reached, returned to Afghanistan, Eritrea and other countries
that are significant sources of new arrivals.​

Nigel Farage pledges to deport small boat asylum seekers

Plans outlined by the Reform UK leader would see the country taken out of the European Convention on Human Rights.

www.bbc.com

Even though he previously said mass deportations would be impossible, this to me is the election equivalent of the big red bus during Brexit that promised extra millions would be spent on the NHS instead of going to the EU. Never mind that the Conservatives said they would do the same thing and failed - this is the policy that will appeal to all the potential Reform supporters out there who are fed up of Labour and the Conservatives.

As part of this, he (and many Conservatives) wish to take Britain out of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and do away with rights in order to tackle irregular migration. The real jump in migration (immigration) has been legal migration - which the Leave supporters told us was all bout control of borders, widening the pool where migrants could come from to beyond Europe's borders

We're on a slippery and unpleasant slope and we've been here before.

For reasons that will never be clear to anyone - especially the British - the UK will do this.