Farage adviser said UK would be better off if it had not fought in WW2

[Allan]

I'm interested in UK member's opinions on this. Will this hurt Farage or is it just par for the course?

An adviser used by Nigel Farage and others in Reform UK to boost their social media popularity has suggested that Britain would be better off had it stayed neutral in the second world war instead of fighting Nazi Germany.

Jack Anderton, who ran Farage’s hugely successful TikTok account before helping Luke Campbell become the Reform mayor of Hull and East Yorkshire, also said the UK should not support Ukraine in its fight against Russian aggression.

This bit made me chuckle...

In a post on his personal blog about Britain’s international standing, Anderton said that in a future world of “meritocracy”, the UK could “regain” former colonies such as Australia, Canada and South Africa.

On behalf of Australia, Canada and South Africa: go **** yourself punk.

Farage adviser said UK would be better off if it had not fought in WW2

Exclusive: Jack Anderton says UK may ‘regain’ former colonies in future and suggests end to support for Ukraine

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[Gozaburo]

I'm interested in UK member's opinions on this. Will this hurt Farage or is it just par for the course?

Not from the UK obviously, but I think he's kind of correct solely on the British empire piece, even if I think he's a vapid douchebag.

The UK did make substantial concessions, transfers of rights, and economic sacrifices to secure American financial, military, and material support for both wars and you can bet your beans on toast that America leveraged that against them in the post-war era to essentially "take over" what the British empire was and become a more powerful version of it.

The real question is whether or not this was a function of the wars or if the wars just accelerated the inevitability of America being a global super power and Europe slowly becoming irrelevant. IMO it's the latter unless in some alternative timeline Europe federated. In that case, Europe would've become a true challenger to American hegemony.

 

[Luce]

Farage repping for Putin?

Unimaginable.

 

[Tangmo]

Tucker Carlson represents the long held MAGA view that Churchill was the "bad guy" of Europe in the time of their disgraced champion Hitler.

This is in fact the long held view of the American Armband Right from before there was MAGA.

Indeed, it was a touchy topic for the American Armband Right to breach publicly; and it remains a subdued view of the MAGAs who, rather than argue the points of the UK Armband Right, focus domestically on the USA which leaves Churchill out of it for the time being. For the American Armband Right cum MAGA, it's FDR who is the evil culprit Grand Destroyer of Fascism in Europe and in the East Asia Pacific -- not yet to be prosecuted as such and whose time for his own historical persecution will come.

No, Winston Churchill Was Not the ‘Chief Villain’ of the Second World War | National Review

Tucker Carlson’s favorite historian, Darryl Cooper, doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

www.nationalreview.com

The podcaster Darryl Cooper, Tucker Carlson’s guest on his interview show, has set tongues wagging over his assertion that Winston Churchill was the “chief villain of the Second World War.” “Now,” Cooper clarifies, you see that [Churchill] was primarily responsible for that war becoming what it did, becoming something other than an invasion of Poland.” But Cooper is doing revisionist history in the most juvenile way possible: by assuming that his preferred counterfactual would have worked out better than what happened in reality.

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Fascists never quit don't we know. For MAGAs it's always been about The Triumph of The Will 2.0 in Amerika. This is since before MAGA was created by Putin-Trump as popular nationalist Christo-fascism in "America" -- and with the social movement's "patriotic" name in its identity. The "America Firsters" of pre WW 2 are back again this time as the dominant national movement that it is.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Will this hurt Farage or is it just par for the course?

I'm not convinced that Farage himself believes this kind of shit but his general views and stance attracts people who do have these beliefs and views. Brexit for example wasn't just supported by people who simply wanted to see the EU collapse - some people genuinely thought (and still think) there is an economic case for Britain outside the EU, some people fell for the sovereignty argument and yes, a significant proportion came from the far right.

In terms of how that grouping of support would see this moron's comments - some have always been National Front / BNP / British Homeland types and they can trace their lineage back to Oswald Mosely and his British Union of Fascists who admired Hitler.
Others I'm ashamed to admit won't even (despite our education system) know who Churchill was or that WW2 happened - they only remember that somehow and at some time, we beat the Germans.

I follow a few ex-military Youtubers and a couple are on the "Reform" spectrum, patriotic as you like and believe in the cause for WW2 and that Churchill was a hero - these people are against Ukraine Aid, think the UK is over-run by illegal immigrants etc etc but they will hold their noses and still vote for Reform if they openly stated that the UK should have been neutral or aided Germany in WW2.

So basically, it's not as simple as Anderton's comments hurting Farage and Reform.

On the other hand, his comments will make it more certain for others like myself who have always had strong suspicions about Farage and a large proportion of his supporters that they want a more authoritarian UK, to take certain freedoms away from specific groups and that at heart, Farage continues to do (possibly unknowingly) Putin's work in Europe.

On behalf of most of Britain, Australia, Canada and South Africa: go **** yourself punk.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Allan]

Typical racist diatribe on Anderton's Instagram feed.



The baby fascist has a grand total of 246 followers

 

[Sven Karma]

"The UK should be more like El Salvador"

That would be some kind of reform.

 

[Allan]

"The UK should be more like El Salvador"

That would be some kind of reform.

I'm sure he means the UK should be mostly Hispanic.

Hey when we're a colony again do you think they'll let me drive on the left? I've always wanted to do that since, well...about ten minutes ago.

 

[Allan]

I've been thinking about this a bit and decided that I want Canada to be a French colony again (sorry Charles).

Better bread, cheese, wine, women and beaches.

They're already here on St Pierre and Miquelon so it's really no trouble to take the rest over. This could be done by noon and then we'd be on time for our new French custom: two hour wine lunch breaks.

 

[Sven Karma]

I've been thinking about this a bit and decided that I want Canada to be a French colony again (sorry Charles).

Better bread, cheese, wine, women and beaches.

They're already here on St Pierre and Miquelon so it's really no trouble to take the rest over. This could be done by noon and then we'd be on time for our new French custom: two hour wine lunch breaks.

I knew an Irish guy who worked in Canada a lot, he said he never knew what to do with himself at formal business dinners when there was a toast to the (then) Queen.

 

[Allan]

I knew an Irish guy who worked in Canada a lot, he said he never knew what to do with himself at formal business dinners when there was a toast to the (then) Queen.

Once we're a French colony again formal business dinner toasts to the King will be treason.

Mr. Traitor CEO will find himself in big trouble. Is the guillotine still a thing?