I think most people got his drift.
Of course .............there will be a few simpletons who didn't get it.
Today is all about Trump refusing to rebuke white supremacists and their behavior.
For shame.
And those who support him? For shame.
Remind me, when BLM rioted because of centuries of systemic injustice, were you condemning them or were you saying 'actually guys these guys have had a pretty ****ty time maybe they have something valid to say here'
That's not actually an answer. the fact that YOU PERSONALLY feel that way doesn't actually have any relevance. It's really quite simple.
Either you you are "okay" with everything about a person if you vote for them, or it's possible to vote for someone and not be "okay" with everything about them.
The REASONS any individual may be "okay" or "not okay" about something is a personal decision, and is utlimately irrelevant as it relates to the logic of your statement which basically rests on the very notion of "voting for someone means you're okay with everything about them".
Errr yeah, that's literally exactly what I said in the first post of mine you replied to. Trump supporters decided they were OK with Bannons involvement in the campaign.
And when a cop tries to stop a criminal, it motivates some to violence. Are you suggesting we not have laws? Cops? Not pursue criminals? You still make no sense with this line of reasoning.All I am saying is that identity politics and the events of the past couple of years have provided these fools the motivation to engage in violence.
Who stokes that fire?Before all this ****, and for decades, "White Supremacy" groups were just viewed as a bunch of loons hanging out and hating together and not really bothering anyone. And you think they all of a sudden decided to come out and start acting violently? They feel threatened.
If the tables were turned, the cops would have arrested half the mob and probably shot the rest. But, thanks for at least admitting it was an act of White Terror. Now...You illustrate exactly what Harry is pointing out.
If the tables were turned, your POV towards right and wrong would turn with it.
Uh, no...you have yet to point out where Trump condemned white supremacists.
You said he did, show me what he said, or admit you were wrong.
...which was my point. Thus why I was asking you if you actually use that kind of logic consistently? Or do you only hold Trump and those who voted for him to the ridiculous standard of "If you vote for someone, you must be 'okay' with everything regarding them and their campaign", but anyone else is free to vote for someone without automatically being supportive of everything about them.
Im not justifying what they are doing..... So why ask the question about whether that justifies what the Nazi's did?
Im not mitigating anything. Please quote me.
All I am saying is that identity politics and the events of the past couple of years have provided these fools the motivation to engage in violence.
Before all this ****, and for decades, "White Supremacy" groups were just viewed as a bunch of loons hanging out and hating together and not really bothering anyone.
And you think they all of a sudden decided to come out and start acting violently? They feel threatened.
Acknowledging facts isn't mitigating ****.
If that is the case, I'd ask why you were trying to mitigate the Nazis actions since you brought up the fact that the Versailles treaty was part of the motivation behind their formation and actions.
Uh, no...you have yet to point out where Trump condemned white supremacists.
You said he did, show me what he said, or admit you were wrong.
WTF Are you talking about? Nowhere did I say we should not discuss race issues as needed for fear of motivating white supremacists to violence. I made no suggestions towards actions of any kind. Quit contributing your own feelings and emotions to my posts. I simply pointed out a factual observation as to what was motivating them. That was all I did. Quit reading your own desirable meanings into my posts so you have some way to label me as a white supremacist!And when a cop tries to stop a criminal, it motivates some to violence. Are you suggesting we not have laws? Cops? Not pursue criminals? You still make no sense with this line of reasoning.
If the tables were turned, the cops would have arrested half the mob and probably shot the rest. But, thanks for at least admitting it was an act of White Terror. Now...
Why won't your president condemn white terrorism?
Wrong
He condemned all that hate stands for.
And I am supposed to feel sorry for them due to their BS victim complexes, I say screw their petty excuses, I do not find them compelling at all.
They demand people empathize with them, but do they empathize with people like Philando Castile, did they say his second amendment rights were violated by the police or did they not care about him?
And guess what, there is a huge difference between oppression and not getting your way all the time, if you are racist and people call you a racist, maybe you should try to stop being a racist, instead of doubling down on it. These people are not being oppressed, they are just mad because they don't get their way the time. Why should I indulge these spoiled children?
You are complaining about some stupid Vogue cover, is there any other petty first world problems that you will say is motivating these people? If you think some Vogue cover is a real problem in the world, then you have no concept of how good you have it compared to many other people in the world.
I'm not mitigating the Nazis actions, I am just of the idea of "well they some legitimate reasons for being hateful racists" can apply to any group, including the original Nazis. Where do you draw the line in terms which racists can which excuses to justify their actions?
I said he condemned all hate.
It wasn't enough for you because you will continue to cling to white supremacists.
People like myself have been around long enough to to see plenty of ugly white & black people.
People like you cling to petty arguments, and have never lived a day in the hood like I have.
So you agree that regardless of the violence it may spark, we should continue to push white nationalists, and the rhetoric that they support, to the fringe? No need to get all worked up, just agree or disagree. I don't recall anyone pondering "why oh why are these white nationalists being so violent!". I think that's pretty ****ing obvious.I made no suggestions towards actions of any kind. Quit contributing your own feelings and emotions to my posts. I simply pointed out a factual observation as to what was motivating them. That was all I did.t!
He didn't call it an act of terrorism, he didn't condemn the white supremacists that caused this.
Did he?
Why not?
Please stop. You are getting more foolish with every post.
Please stop. You are getting more foolish with every post.
So you agree that regardless of the violence it may spark, we should continue to push white nationalists, and the rhetoric that they support, to the fringe? No need to get all worked up, just agree or disagree. I don't recall anyone pondering "why oh why are these white nationalists being so violent!". I think that's pretty ****ing obvious.
Kind of like Trump, you're saying a lot of things, but seemingly trying to dance around the specific issue?
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