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Fake News Thread

And some wonder why I worry so about media bias, editorial decisions? (and accuracy for that matter).

The Internet is a wonderful thing, speeding information and applications across the planet at the speed of light.
The cable and broadcast systems we have are much the same for the talking heads on TV.
Social media, as numerously cited in the previous posts, can share and spread human interaction and interchange at the speed of light.

All megaphones of enormous size, and a proportionally enormous responsibility as well.

Given all that power of instant pervasive distribution, can we also please focus on accuracy and factual based information as well?
 
Threegoofs said:
Thread hijacked and spammed.

Time to exit.
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Quite a torrent. Can you imagine being in an administration inundated with this amount and level of fake news?
No wonder he criticizes the media.
 

I was watching NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt as he "reported" on the Trump comment in a closed meeting about "S---hole Countries".

He presented the comments as absolutely correct and accurate and never mentioned that he had no recording, no video and no eye witness accounts.

Subsequent to this, a Democrat said he heard the comment, two Republicans said the comment was a misquote and Trump said he used strong language, but not that particular word.

Lost in all this is the actual question: Should immigration be a merit based model to attract the best and brightest from around the world or some model of a charity to the underprivileged and under talented?

FAKE NEWS is not just what was reported in the inaccurate, unprofessional and unfair method employed, but also in the intentionally misleading direction of thinking to a particular conclusion.

Interestingly, returning the immigrants to the countries from which they immigrated is said by Dems to be an inhuman act of cruelty. Why?

Obviously, because those countries are s---holes. If they were great places, returning the recently immigrated to them would be considered to be rewards.
 
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eohrnberger said:
Quite a torrent. Can you imagine being in an administration inundated with this amount and level of fake news?
No wonder he criticizes the media.
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Let me remind everyone what I said in my first post in this thread:


You have presented just SOME of the raging flood of anti-Trump crap the media has presented since Trump descended his golden escalator...2 1/2 years ago.
 
Mycroft said:
Let me remind everyone what I said in my first post in this thread:



You have presented just SOME of the raging flood of anti-Trump crap the media has presented since Trump descended his golden escalator...2 1/2 years ago.
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Agreed. Just some. There was such a huge amount of material it rather surprised me as to its sheer volume, and the pattern repeats itself over and over.

  1. A fake news story is posted, tweeted, broadcast, published
  2. It gets much exposure / re-tweets / coverage and becomes all the rage, goes viral
  3. Someone posts proof that its fake, sometimes the original poster themselves admit they got it wrong
  4. The retraction / correction isn't the rage, gets meek exposure, never goes viral
  5. The damage form the original is done, seemingly as intended

The media and the political left seem to on a mission to discredit a legitimately election president. Almost a coup via the media.

Think about that about.
 
The media is a huge problem in the USA right now. It is so biased it is not even funny anymore, more like tragic.

Lefties lie like there is no tomorrow, and especially about Trump. It is sickening how all the lefties hate our nation, and Republicans. They use the media to silence us, and now we are finding out sources like Twitter, Google, and You Tube all discriminate against the right and conservatives. All three are involved in legal actions against them currently for manipulation and discrimination, of first amendment rights..

The screaming cry baby left is silent when called out on this truth.
 

I agree to a point. Only, I see more misinformation coming from the "righties" but I digress. I have to wonder why that is? Does the poster in the above quote literally not see or recognize all the bull**** put out there in social media or on television generated by factions on his side of the political spectrum? Or, does he just refuse to acknowledge them? We will never know because the task of staying on point to find out will surely be diverted, if not by some Obama or Hillary deflection, then by some personal summation like, "You're just a stupid librul doody-head."

Could it be environmental? Does the poster live in a geographical area that only presents the rightwing flavored information? In this day and age, that is hard to imagine.

Peer pressure perhaps?

What about me? Why is it that when I find "fake news" it is almost always presented by the right, in truck loads, greatly outnumbering the examples of left-wing fake news I run across? Just the opposite of the person quoted above. We both share the same internet. Our TV's have the same stations. Could it be possible that I am just as blind? That's why I like this thread. Some more moderate right leaning people have brought forth things that made me think. I am now more aware of the efforts from the left to mislead as well. I will be paying more attention in the future. You see? I can learn. But I am willing to bet the poster quoted above, is not. But I could be wrong.

No doubt, some media outlets are uber-biased. FOX and MSNBC come to mind. I would also include CNN, however, I have no doubt that if DJT was a democrat, being as stupid as he is being, CNN would come down on him, just as hard as they are coming down on him now. And I am just as equally as sure, if DJT were a democrat, the same people criticizing CNN now would be praising them instead. So, that sets CNN aside from MSNBC or FOXNews, in my opinion (which has no place here.)

And today's media marketing strategies seem to be:
1. Divide and identify your target audience.
2. Take any little point you can find, add it to any other little points you find, take all the points and craft them in to a narrative that will satisfy the hunger of your target audience.

Perhaps, if both the left and the right could come to the understanding together, that this media "divide and conquer" marketing strategy is unraveling the very fabric that has held us together for 200 years, we could defeat this propaganda attack on our nation together. Perhaps?
 

Environmental? Perhaps. Aren't the majority of national news media outlets located in NYC?
(Yes, I think, and not much diversity there, how about some should consider moving out of NYC and say, more into the middle of country to gain a different perspective?)

There is also how social media works. The you click things you like, the more that social media platform will bring you similar things.

Some pundits have claimed this leads to the following 'group think' scenario, and journalists aren't more immune than any other human beings.

A journalist posts a social media item, and all their friends read it. Consensus among their friends is that it's not toeing their political line, and the journalist gets chided for it. Next time, they'll post what's expected of them from their friends, and reap accolades from them. Later, it becomes the basis for an article that's posted, published, or given to a news reader for the TV. No wonder it seems like all the news outlets sound like they are reading and publishing from the same script!
 
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Try to start even a single positive news story about the Trump administration, get chided for it, until it is revised to be sufficiently negative, and then it then becomes popular and even goes viral. When it goes viral it is unleashed onto everyone. Since retractions of bad news Trump stories aren't popular, they don't go viral, so a larger percentage of people don't ever hear / read about them, and only the negative story remains in the public's consciousness.

Could very well be that social media has a role in how polarized the political rhetoric and political landscape has become.

The exerted peer pressure via social media is pretty clear.


The wrath and echo chamber brought on my social media?
 
I think a good and fun exercise for those wishing to broaden their horizons, heighten their levels of understanding, and possibly escape the heavy yoke of their own philosophical blindness, would be to have each participant in this thread go out and search for a fake news article presented from their side of things.

IOW, if you are known to lean left, go find an example of left wing fake news.

If you are known to lean right, go find some right wing fake news.

And share your findings. It could be eye opening (for those who aren't already totally blinded.)
 

Cry about it.
 

I turned off the nightly news on the MSM's some time ago. Especially when they start another hit job story on Trump.

Now I don't like all the twitter crap Trump posts up. Some of it I get, but largely most of it is totally useless and just stirs the big pot of anger on the left. While that can be fun it is less than productive.

The main stream media in general, Wa Po, NYT, and CNN, MSNBC are total garbage when it comes to politics. They squandered their entire credibility long before election day when they were proven FLAT WRONG about the election, and mostly about Trump. Now they are just ass hurt Democrats still trying for a kill shot to bring Trump down a year after the fact...:roll:

So their credibility is totally destroyed, and they so willingly did it to themselves. They say Dems "eat" their own. Maybe they should "'eat" left wing reporters who lie. They would not go hungry in this decade of they did... The retractions of their sins are on the back page and buried, and this is no accident. The lies are so rampant and egregious, some reporters are now being let go after several years of lies about Trump and the right.

To understand the Democrats and their media, lets not forget who their sugar daddy is, George Soros and company. Understand who he is, and what he wants for our nation is part and parcel of why I hate anything to do with Dems and their lying media. Soros and the Dems want our nation to fail, and become one under the UN. with all nations. One world Government. The ****ing Democrats can deny it all they want, but with Soros paying the bill we all know better...So this is the back drop to see the left and all of their anti American feelings. Many of them hate this nation, and would sell us out to Soros at the first chance they get. Just like the DNC already has.

Critical thinking is involved in exposing the left wing lies in print, and in video. If you are capable of critical thinking, most of the lies of the MSM's are quite easy to see. People with weak minds, or people who refuse to use critical thinking are easily influenced by the lies that when told enough times, begin to be accepted as the truth.. And my oh my the lies are repeated constantly... Goebels of Nazi fame would be proud...

Tactics of the left are easy to understand. The leftists hand book by Saul Alynsky is their play book, it is easy to see as well.. If you study this for a bit you will see what I mean..

****ing Democrats are losers and a drag on our nation. They hate us the way we are. We hate them for we love the way our nation is...
 
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Look at project Varatas and the left wing lies they exposed. look at the wiki leaks criminality from the DNC that was never denied. It is out there for all who care to see...
 

I bet you learned all about George Soros from unbiased and fair media sources, dinytcha?
 
Threegoofs said:
I bet you learned all about George Soros from unbiased and fair media sources, dinytcha?
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I leaned about George Soros and his beliefs from many sources.

That does little to hide the truth of who he is, what he does, and what he wants. Are you in denial? Sounds like you definitely are. :roll:

Your left wing is pond scum for having anything to do with Soros. He is a global problem, for any thing that is not socialism or what ever left wing identity you wish to choose.
 

LOL.

Many unbiased sources, I’m sure.

How did George Soros become the favorite boogeyman of the right? - Business Insider
 

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

There ya go, all in one place. Glad to be of help. LOL...
 
Blkdirt Farmer said:
We gave you Trump. :2wave:

You are the one who has cried ever since! How do you like them apples? :lamo
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I don't know, dude, you're the one complaining and resorting to ad hominem. You sure about that?
 
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