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Ok, I really don't want to get into another death penalty argument. But I put it in this section since it has to do with our jail system, and prisoners that may or may not be on death row.
I was watching one of those specials on the National Geographic Channel about the Aryan Brotherhood last night. They discussed at length how the leaders of the AB were able to pass coded messages to other members and order hits from 1500 miles away, how they can traffic drugs inside the prison cells, and the multi-million dollar business they run. All from inside the prison walls, and from inside super-max security prisons. And unlike other gangs, which sprung up from outside the prison system, and found their way into it, the AB actually came to a life of its own inside the prison walls.
I also remember watching a similar special on the MS-13 gang, which had similar tactics.
My question is, is why are we allowing these prison inmates(no matter their affiliation), who are known leaders of these gangs and have proven ingeniuos enough to place orders and make millions of dollars from inside prison, to have any contact with anybody outside of their cell? Its obvious that even with a "Get well soon" card, they can effectivley remain in control and in power over their gangs. Why are we allowing these extreme criminals to have continued contact with anybody at all?? They should be executed IMO, but they aren't and somehow we feel the need to let them have some kind of rights, despite the extreme level of crime they are continuously involved in. Why???
Well...here it is in short form : Say you remove them from gen pop. They'll end up paying guards(which they already do) to pass messages.
You can't really stop crime 100%. Just hope you've done enough to prevent it.
Seems to me that these "folks" actually have it better inside than they do outside. They have housing, three squares a day, cable, weight rooms, workshops, church, classrooms, computers, commisary, visitation, health care, dental and a mail system.
I live in Florida, they use trailers in some school districts because its cheaper
than building a traditional school. Yet we build "state of the art" facilities to house criminals.
Shows me the priorities we have in our society today.
Conjugal visits? Are you kidding me?
Ironic, isn't it, that a confessed serial killer like Ted Bundy had the "right" to marry, enjoy conjugal visits at taxpayer expense, and even father a child, all from inside prison walls... yet fine upstanding lesbian couples who are holding down professional jobs and raising children together are deemed by the State to be undeserving of this "right"?
Seems to me that these "folks" actually have it better inside than they do outside. They have housing, three squares a day, cable, weight rooms, workshops, church, classrooms, computers, commisary, visitation, health care, dental and a mail system.
tristanrobin
I volunteered teaching reading at a prison for several years.
You have a very exaggerated view of the comforts of medium/maximum security prisons (where violent offenders are housed).
The prison I worked in had no cable, no weight room, no computers ... and the commissary was where the inmates could purchase lavish extravagances like toilet paper (inmates are given one roll a week - after that, it's the Sears catalog), toothpaste (prisons give you a toothbrush, not toothpaste), soap, kleenex, etc.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not suggesting that they have it better - they did whatever they did and are being punished. But, because once in a while there will be a story about some prison having some kind of luxury, the public thinks these med/max prisons are like country clubs.
It jest ain't so!
I agree.
I have worked in a couple of Nothern California Prisons and Juvenile Detention Facilities and not one of them had anything that even remotely resembled a luxury...
These places were cold and hard and devoid of personality and comfort.
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