AClockworkGrape
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Or might make people yearn for another Clinton presidency. Libs should LOVE the guy...
I would love to see where Gingrich has denied his affairs. Look...I have plenty of reasons to not vote for him and wouldnt fault anyone that didnt like him as a candidate. But when LIBERALS make a deal out of CHARACTER in a president? Thats ****ing COMICAL.Not saying that I wouldn't vote for him due to his past affairs , but it's hard to appreciate a candidate who comes across as a hypocrite. Well that, and I of course am "slightly liberal".
I would love to see where Gingrich has denied his affairs. Look...I have plenty of reasons to not vote for him and wouldnt fault anyone that didnt like him as a candidate. But when LIBERALS make a deal out of CHARACTER in a president? Thats ****ing COMICAL.
And again...I have a hard time taking a liberal seriously when they say what you just said in light of the fact the immoral lying cheating adulterous CiC that Liberals elected...twice...SIGNED DADT AND DOMA. Its ALWAYS the same bull****. Oh yes...we HATE that republicans oppose gay marriage. Havent said **** ALL about democrats...but we sure do hate REPUBLICANS when they say the same thing. :dohAhh, I should have made my statement more clear, I find it hard to respect a man who uses the "preserving the sanctity of marriage line" in respects to gay marriage, when he has an affair every 2 out of 3 (Plausibly 3 out of 3, we cannot be sure now can we?) marriages.
If he didn't use the sanctity of marriage line to defend his position on gay marriage then I wouldn't believe him to be a sanctimonious hypocrite.
And again...I have a hard time taking a liberal seriously when they say what you just said in light of the fact the immoral lying cheating adulterous CiC that Liberals elected...twice...SIGNED DADT AND DOMA. Its ALWAYS the same bull****. Oh yes...we HATE that republicans oppose gay marriage. Havent said **** ALL about democrats...but we sure do hate REPUBLICANS when they say the same thing. :doh
You know...the funny thing is...every time this comes up, apparently NOBODY voted for Clinton...just like no one bought all those damn Spice Girls CDs...Why do you assume all Liberals voted for Clinton? I certainly didn't. And I didn't bring up Democrats, because, as you can tell by the title of this thread, this topic relates to Gingrich, not the Obama/Clinton administration.
And again...I have a hard time taking a liberal seriously when they say what you just said in light of the fact the immoral lying cheating adulterous CiC that Liberals elected...twice...SIGNED DADT AND DOMA. Its ALWAYS the same bull****. Oh yes...we HATE that republicans oppose gay marriage. Havent said **** ALL about democrats...but we sure do hate REPUBLICANS when they say the same thing. :doh
Clinton was a scumbag, a liar, committed perjury, accused of sexual harassment, faced reports of sexual assault and even rape, and OHBYTHEWAY made more than a few speeches on the importance of the family. Oh yeah...and he signed those gay marriage thingies that the guy hates. Gringich had affairs and admitted to them. Your scumbag wins hands down in EVERY category...including the hypocrisy part.Do you really not understand the distinction? Clinton was a scumbag but he wasn't a hypocrite. Gingrich is a scumbag AND a hypocrite. And that makes all the difference.
You know what? I could care less about the moral thing in reguards to personal stuff. Can the person save this country and get us out of the mess we are in? That is all that matters. If you wanna swing or have an open marriage or no marriage at all? I Don't Care! Morals are subjective and we need to stop hoping for some damn pure ass who has never did any wrong in their personal life. If you want pure? Maybe we should start begging Nuns to run. I mean come on folks.
Clinton was a scumbag, a liar, committed perjury, accused of sexual harassment, faced reports of sexual assault and even rape, and OHBYTHEWAY made more than a few speeches on the importance of the family. Oh yeah...and he signed those gay marriage thingies that the guy hates. Gringich had affairs and admitted to them. Your scumbag wins hands down in EVERY category...including the hypocrisy part.
I dont care if you dont like the guy. I wont be voting for the guy. Hyocrite? Avoid mirrors at all costs...
Only of he commits perjury in front of a Grand Jury.
Well let's put Gingrich in front of Grand Jury like they did Clinton for his affair! And while we are at it let's put Bush in front of a Grand Jury for lying us into a war!
Seriously? You guys are using ex-wives as character witnesses? Im gonna go out on a limb and say well over 50% of divorced men (and women!) would be disqualified if that were the criteria to determine fitness. Lame. Just lame.
I'm not defending Clinton's character (though I discount unproven allegations). But you full of **** if you maintain that Clinton was a big "family values" guy. Everyone knows that that is a plank of the Republican platform and not a plank of the Democratic platform, and everyone knows that Gingrich has carried that water. Stop embarrassing yourself by denying the obvious.
So Democrats hold no interest in "Family values". It's good that the left is finally coming out in the open on this issue, although it has been evident since the 'Great Society' debacle.
Unlike big-government conservatives, the left does not believe that it is government's role to tell people what values they should hold.
Its hard to believe that there are still people this misinformed, or uninformed.
Here is a great informative piece:
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That's an interesting claim and, of course, it's untrue. Not just a little bit untrue but completely and absolutely untrue. Or are you making the claim that Democrats aren't really that big on values, that it's all for show? That I can believe.
Obama to call for ‘return to American values’ in State of the Union address - 44 - The Washington Post
Obama is talking about tax policy. He's not preaching about moral values.
Unlike big-government conservatives, the left does not believe that it is government's role to tell people what values they should hold.
This is what you said:
Now you've changed it "moral" values.
It's clear why Leftists feel uncomfortable with the discussions of morals.
I thought it was pretty obvious that I was talking about moral values, but I made it explicit in case there were any dimwitted conservatives present.
Acquitted?Yes, and acquitted. And unlike Newt, he didn't run around preaching about family values and the sanctity of marriage.
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