You cannot be a good Christian and accept Literal Creationism.
Creationist are some of the lowest people on the totem pole of debating for a reason. They have no actual arguments. They reject everything they don't like either by giving asinine reasons as you have or simply pretending it doesn't exist (as you have repetively here). And their belief is fundamentally rooted in dishonesty and immaturity. And they tend to be exceptionally arrogant as to dictate that their interpretation, and ONLY their interpretation is correct.
First, there are no good Christians. Christians are sinful people, just as we all are. Hence the reasons we often see Christians doing sinful, hypocritical things. As I heard in a video last week, Churches are not resorts for the saved, but rather clinics for the sick. The difference between Christians and unbelievers is that we recognize who we are, and we rejoice in who Jesus Christ is.
With regard to my arguments being weak and pathetic, let me once again agree with you. I would direct you to the book "In Six Days" edited by John Ashton, in which 50 Christian scientists, each one highly educated and experienced in various fields of science, explain why they believe the evidence clearly points to a created, young earth. If you direct message me (can we do that here?) I'll send you a copy.
Not really. But merely because we do not share your particular interpretation does not mean we are incapable of doing our theological analysis.
If the necessary action required a power outside of the natural, it is therefore Magic. Call it what you want, but it is functionally magic. There is no natural explanation for what happened and multiple natural laws were violated without the presence of a singularity. And there is no evidence for it at all. That is magic.
You seem very young as you haven't delved much into your religion.
Unless you study the Word of God with the mind of a seeker, rather than an antagonist, you cannot hope to fully understand the nuance and the full meaning in context.
Do you believe in miracles? People who were very very sick suddenly become well? Fireman able to lift cars off trapped people with their bare hands? Soldiers riding in covered trucks that come back to base with hundreds of pass-through bullet and RPG rounds? Do you believe these things happen? If not, why not? If so, how is that anything but supernatural?
Your link didn't work. You sure read that fast! In all likelihood, you searched, found it, and declared it unconvincing all in the space of two minutes. Poor science that.
Your link didn't work. You sure read that fast! In all likelihood, you searched, found it, and declared it unconvincing all in the space of two minutes. Poor science that.
You would think Religionists could debate in 'good faith' at least.I think he's trolling you.
Honestly, Literal Creationism, aside from mandating that the abrahamic God is a huge liar, frankly is bat**** crazy.
Nothing about it makes any sense in the context of actual science.
And let's remember that a flood would cover the land with a brine. That salt would leech into the soil. Meaning that most plants shouldn't have been able to survive the salt content of the land. Only a relatively small number of species are salt tolerant and certainty not the grain crops that most of humanity survives on. There are thousands of reason why Literal Creation and the Flood make absolutely no sense.
And some creationists realize this and argue what amounts to magic. That's fine, but I can't see how they can reasonable expect anyone to take them seriously, especially when large numbers of their own religion think they're crazy.
I'm not sure if anyone has already addressed this post, I'm trying to catch up on the conversation. But in theology even at a Christian private college most proffessors don't believe the flood covered the whole Earth.
The Biblical flood only covered where mankind was. The sole purpose of the Biblical flood was to wipe out mankind, who was most likely only in the Middle East area of the world.
Considering it is believed that man was only in this now desert landscape, what you are saying can be true and still be in align with the Bible. The Flood never reached areas such as South America, why else are there Parrots and Rainforest animals there? I would say most Christians would accept this to be true. So could it not be possible that the flood did destroy the crops and species in this area just like you argue?
Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, 47:5And in the same way, the seed of this flower which you see was in the beginning an insignificant thing, and very small; and it grew and developed in the womb of the earth and, after appearing in various forms, came forth in this condition with perfect freshness and grace. In the same manner, it is evident that this terrestrial globe, having once found existence, grew and developed in the matrix of the universe, and came forth in different forms and conditions, until gradually it attained this present perfection, and became adorned with innumerable beings, and appeared as a finished organization.
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