No, we've never directly observed this.
Well, viruses do it all the time (if you count those as species).
What exactly is a "different species" aside from a series of mutations in DNA? If you accept that genes can change over a short period of time as organisms adapt to their environment, then it logically follows that there will be a LOT of changes over a LONG period of time. And that's all speciation really is...a lot of genetic changes from the original until you have something very different.
I don't really know if viruses qualify as a species. Some argue that because they can't self-replicate, they aren't truly "alive", depending upon one's definiteion of life.
A different species is often defined as a species that can not produce fertile young with the the descendants of the species from which it descended. Of course, this doesn't quite apply to most bacteria or viruses
No, we've never directly observed this.
Or bottlenose dolphins and false killer whales which can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, although they are different dolphin species. Wholphin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The definition of "species" needs some amending.
No, not at all. You're simply ignoring the facts and substituting your own whacked ideas. Science has proven that evolution happens via observation and testing in regards to the genetic code. I say this to you, although I know you will not let this information into your head. You are more comfortable living in your delusion than accepting the truth, and there is very little any of us can do, though we are armed with the facts, to tear down your delusion. I am done trying to prove evolution, a truth of our world to you.
There is nothing there to disprove.So I ask you, disprove or invalidate evolution.
Fair enough. Nevertheless, they are a good example of something we have observed adapting to its environment and becoming radically different from what we started with.
I did not ask you. You were invited to make a bet.
(if you count those as species).
a series of mutations in DNA has lead to appearance of you and I … from your definition you and I are different species. I cannot deny that.What exactly is a "different species" aside from a series of mutations in DNA?
If you accept that genes can change over a short period of time as organisms adapt to their environment, then it logically follows that there will be a LOT of changes over a LONG period of time.
And that's all speciation really is...a lot of genetic changes from the original until you have something very different.
It seems the odds are against me.
a series of mutations in DNA has lead to appearance of you and I … from your definition you and I are different species. I cannot deny that.
justone said:I am not arguing your logic, am I?
justone said:I am very different from you, am I a different specie?
No, we are the same species. But if you acknowledge that there will be small genetic changes over the generations as animals adapt better to their environment, then it stands to reason that a lot of small changes will add up to some pretty big changes (i.e. new species).
So you acknowledge then that there will be major changes over long periods of time, compared to the ancestor? I guess I'm confused what problem you have with the theory of evolution then...
No, you are not very different from me. Over 99.9% of our genes are exactly the same.
I have not been arguing against the occurence of genetical changes. The occurence has been observed in experiments, the propositions
( mathematical equations) explaining the changes have been made and confirmed in experiments.
I have not been arguing against your logical conclusions or reasoning leading to the conclusions, all I have ben asking if the conclusions have ever been observed, if propositions have ever been made and confirmed in experiments, - ever, at least justonce.
I have not been having objections, as you can seeNow, it still remains a philosophy that I believe warrants consideration,
but I can now see why you have a strong aversion towards it's designation as a science with far more clarity than I could before. Thank you for that.
Perhaps all evolutionists were not created equal?
I guess I lost all my bets.You mean personally observed by scientists? Not that I am aware of. The theory of evolution has only been around for a little over a century. It takes a lot longer than that to see major changes in species (although we have observed lots of minor changes).
So, you want me to believe that occurrences nobody has ever been witness of and nobody has made a record of are happening and you want me to to believe just to your promise that in some time ( I will get back to TIME - I should go) we will see them;
justone said:but you wouldn't believe in resurrection of Christ witnessed and recorded, and you wouldn’t believe the promise of him coming back in some time?
justone said:And then you go around and insult my beliefs and want to force me and my children to believe in yours as the only right ones?
Or bottlenose dolphins and false killer whales which can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, although they are different dolphin species. Wholphin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The definition of "species" needs some amending.
Those who put on #1 can receive their money.
There is nothing there to disprove.
One does not disprove delusional ideas.
I do not have a religion, but I am definitely not an Atheist.
What's your problem with apes? I would be proud to be descended from a gorilla or orangutan
I agree. I was just throwing out a common definition.
You have totally lost touch with anything that might be referred, even in a sideways way, to "reality". You have yet to launch an even remotely compelling argument against evolution, nor support a counter-idea. But regardless, my curiousity is piqued; if you do not believe in evolution, how do you think everything that is got to be the way it is? I gotta hear this.
Duke
Like I said, there is overwhelming evidence in the fossil record. That evidence is no less observable than reproducing the experiment in a laboratory.
Umm...what?
Umm...what?
Sorry, that you have nothing to be proud of. It is clear that evolution went on a side track in your case. I see most people keep this fact in mind talking to you. Do you, at least eat bananas?
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