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That is a supporting argument for......that the GOP did not attempt to derail the passage of the ACA?The fact that ACA was passed on a straight party line vote is the basis of my argument. This is the last assistance you will receive.eace
Those problems are reflected in the Maryland numbers released Monday, the first of what the state said would be regular data releases. The state said 13,532 accounts with verified identity were created as of Sunday evening, and it has seen 170,000 unique visitors to the website. But only 326 people were actually enrolled in new health-insurance plans.
That is a supporting argument for......that the GOP did not attempt to derail the passage of the ACA?
Hello?....is this thing on?
I find it funny that time and again the fall back argument for teabaggers is the "right to be irresponsible". What creates such deluded arguments in the minds of baggers?The question is why should anyone support ACA which forces people to buy a product that they may not want?
WTF? Much of the losses hospitals incur come out as tax write offs....and we all pay to make up that loss of revenue.the fact that the state taxpayers not the federal taxpayers pay for the uninsured expenses in their state.
I find it funny that time and again the fall back argument for teabaggers is the "right to be irresponsible". What creates such deluded arguments in the minds of baggers?
WTF? Much of the losses hospitals incur come out as tax write offs....and we all pay to make up that loss of revenue.
The hospital would have billed them for far less than the 100k, probably more in the 30-40k range, due to the lack of insurance, and if the uninsured couldn't pay, the would most likely apply the grant money and trust funds at their disposal to cover treating the underprivileged. In the end, the hospital probably has a charity write off of a few thousand dollars.
Last year, one of the big hospitals here in Cleveland, Ohio provided free hospital care to the tune of $143 million.
I don't doubt it, but the reason a hospital provides $143 million of free care isn't really charity. They get people in that they have to treat that have no way to pay. The hospital could try collecting the debts, and they do sometimes. But when you have patients that realistically could never pay their bill it may make more sense for the hospital to forget about collecting it and write it off. It looks better for the hospital to give away care than to try to garnish wages from minimum wage workers or extract money from the unemployed, after all. Ultimately the costs of treatment get paid by charging higher prices to others.
Yes, those who have not been buying HI have been doing so because of....stupidity.Stop trying to legislate to eliminate stupidity. If you do so there will be no more liberals to brainwash.
We all pay for the uninsured...that was the point.Who is "we" pay for higher prices? Do you pay for the uninsured in TX?
Yes, those who have not been buying HI have been doing so because of....stupidity.
And this is used to back up an argument FOR irresponsibility. A real collision of memes....and you don't even see it as you post it.
We all pay for the uninsured...that was the point.
Right....sure.....ok.Those that have been buying healthcare insurance aren't guaranteed that they will be able to do so in the future
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
Right....sure.....ok.
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
State takes charity care money from UTMB - Houston Chronicle
Right....sure.....ok.
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
State takes charity care money from UTMB - Houston Chronicle
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."con said:As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
You don't know what you are talking about.
"Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
That's funny bagger, I just showed you as NOT knowing what YOU are talking about.
Uh, your point was that US tax dollars are not spent in Texas to pay for the uninsured in Texas.I am still waiting for you to read the rest of the story and get back to us. This is money allocated to the state of TX from the Medicaid mandate. Why do you care what the state does with allocated dollars to TX? How is this hurting you, your state or any other state? are you getting less TX tax dollars because of your perception?
Uh, your point was that US tax dollars are not spent in Texas to pay for the uninsured in Texas.
I showed you are incorrect, you cannot accept the fact you are wrong and are now in the process of trying to divert from and bury your mess.
The point is....you are wrong.
Accept it and move on.
Wait....let me get this....you claim FEDERAL tax dollars do not go to Texas to pay for uninsured care, I post documentation that TX does get FEDERAL tax dollars to pay for the uninsured.....and your defense is....that I don't understand where FEDERAL tax dollars come from?Your opinion noted and I posted the part of the article that you ignored, no laws violated and the fact remains that the general fund of TX funds hospital shortfalls so the diversion of funds is doing exactly what it was supposed to do. States are responsible for their own healthcare costs. Apparently when you talk about federal dollars you ignore where those federal dollars come from including tax dollars from the state of TX.
Looks to me like some people need to grow up and stop acting like spoiled children who have to win and get what they want. Looks like candidates for the Obama Administration
This part of your post has always confused me. Around here an annual checkup costs as little as $80 and as much as $250. There are even annual free health fairs which do a fairly comprehensive examination including BP, heart rate and blood work. My confusion is how someone cannot afford to set aside $8-$20/month to cover the annual expense and yet will be able to afford $?(presumably much more) per month in premiums. Sure if there is some medical issue discovered in these checkups the individual has NEW cost issues but the 'preventative care' point is mute at that point isn't it?
Yeah, all those darned 'lazy' 27 year old's that don't really use health care services outside the occasional visit to a Doctor's Care clinic for a cold, now have to be forced to buy a private product to cover things that they will never use, all in the name of redistribution of their premium money paid.
you are already anxious to run up a bill
did you not understand my post? for the premiums to stay where they are at now million will need to sign up for Obama care and not use it. if all that signs up are like you looking forward to running up a bill Obama care will collapse
Do you have any idea how health insurance enrollment works for most people? This is a question of actual curiosity.Maryland Says It Has 326 Enrollees in Health Exchange - Washington Wire - WSJ
170,000 unique visits, 13,000 enrollees, 326 sign ups. 2.5% of enrollees signed up, .2% of unique visitors signed up.
actually, you do, and i'd be curious to hear who told you otherwise.....
juvenile is not being able to repeal it with votes so you do not allow a vote on everything else. That is juvenile my republican friend. If the votes for the continuing resolution were for a shutdown then I would be cool with it, but since they are not then it makes no sense as an adult rational person to do this.
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