Ending Radical Indoctrination in K-12 Schooling (1 Viewer)

[SoCal]

Trump has begun his fascist Indoctrination of America's children. Not only is Trump diverting millions from our public schools to religious and for profit schools, he's attempting to mold our students into his vision of a "patriotic American". By virtue of Trump's all powerful, unquestioning right to dictate what American students will, or will not be exposed to in K12 classrooms, he decrees that;

“Discriminatory equity ideology” means an ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups..."
"An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race, color, sex, or national origin, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously"
"White Privilege” or “unconscious bias,” actually promotes racial discrimination..."
I.e. Whites are the real victims of discrimination.

Trump claims that;
"..young men and women are made to question whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies"
E.g. White kids might get the crazy idea that their ancestors created a system that has kept blacks from attaining equity in, wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes.

"eliminating Federal funding or support for illegal and discriminatory treatment and indoctrination in K-12 schools, including based on gender ideology and discriminatory equity ideology"
I.e. Systemic And Structural Racism does not exist.

To ensure his dictates will be enforced, Trump has created a group of ideologues to oversee that his demands will be met;
"The 1776 Commission shall be composed of not more than 20 members, who shall be appointed by the President for a term of 2 years. The 1776 Commission shall be made up of individuals from outside the Federal Government with relevant experience or subject-matter expertise.
E.g. Fox commentators.

It's said that, "history is written by the victors". Which is generally true, for example, Trump won the election enabling him to whitewash American history. Although in the case of The Civil War, while blacks won their freedom, its history was written by both Northern and Southern whites...

 

[Jay59]

Trump has begun his fascist Indoctrination of America's children. Not only is Trump diverting millions from our public schools to religious and for profit schools, he's attempting to mold our students into his vision of a "patriotic American". By virtue of Trump's all powerful, unquestioning right to dictate what American students will, or will not be exposed to in K12 classrooms, he decrees that;

“Discriminatory equity ideology” means an ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups..."
"An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race, color, sex, or national origin, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously"
"White Privilege” or “unconscious bias,” actually promotes racial discrimination..."
I.e. Whites are the real victims of discrimination.

Trump claims that;
"..young men and women are made to question whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies"
E.g. White kids might get the crazy idea that their ancestors created a system that has kept blacks from attaining equity in, wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes.

"eliminating Federal funding or support for illegal and discriminatory treatment and indoctrination in K-12 schools, including based on gender ideology and discriminatory equity ideology"
I.e. Systemic And Structural Racism does not exist.

To ensure his dictates will be enforced, Trump has created a group of ideologues to oversee that his demands will be met;
"The 1776 Commission shall be composed of not more than 20 members, who shall be appointed by the President for a term of 2 years. The 1776 Commission shall be made up of individuals from outside the Federal Government with relevant experience or subject-matter expertise.
E.g. Fox commentators.

It's said that, "history is written by the victors". Which is generally true, for example, Trump won the election enabling him to whitewash American history. Although in the case of The Civil War, while blacks won their freedom, its history was written by both Northern and Southern whites...

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity

 

[Peacenik]

Christianity has practiced religious indoctrination throughout history. Most Christians had little choice in becoming Christians because their parents imposed their religion on them, and gave them no choice.

Without religious indoctrination religions would be the minority.

If humans were allowed to attain the age of adulthood before being forced to practice religion, and then informed the decision was totally theirs and theirs alone, the world would have a lot more agnostics and atheists, and fewer believers.

People would consider good to be what is good for society and recognize that throughout history good is more popular than bad, that it is logical to play nice with others because what is good for society is good for individuals. No religion required to reach this conclusion.

Faith in humanity to self-preserve is far superior to faith in a supposed creator-overseer being.

 

[Peacenik]

It is no surprise that the greedy billionaires, who consider their power to be greater than that of any 'lord' wish to utilize religious indoctrination as a tool for subduing and controlling the public for their own greedy ambition. They very effectively use Christianity as a tool.

It seems it has actually always been this way throughout the ages. Everybody who 'fell for' Christianity has become an effective tool for the rich and powerful.

Donald has merely raised it to a new level not seen for a while. Sad it still works in this "information age," which has actually become the "instant disinformation age."

Fully taking total advantage of the fact that rumors travel much faster than the truth; and short attention spans.

"Keep 'em busy, and they won't have time to become so well informed they realize you're using them."

 

[SoCal]

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity.

Maybe this will help you understand:

"Though often used interchangeably, equality and equity are quite different. If fairness is the goal, equality and equity are two processes through which we can achieve it. Equality simply means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of need or any other individual difference. Equity, on the other hand, means everyone is provided with what they need to succeed. In an equality model, a coach gives all of his players the exact same shoes. In an equity model, the coach gives all of his players shoes that are their size.

Another example is how children of color are not provided with the means to succeed is how schools are funded. Funded by property taxes from poor communities, rather than from a state's general fund just perpetuates their inequity.

"Equity goes beyond simple inequality by implying that the disparities are avoidable and unjust. It suggests that the differences are a result of systemic biases or discriminatory practices that could be rectified."

You might consider taking some remedial training:

"Remedial training, also known as remedial teaching or remedial education, is a form of instruction designed to address specific learning gaps or difficulties that a student may be experiencing. It often involves providing extra support, reteaching concepts, and offering alternative teaching methods to help students improve their skills and abilities."...

 

[Jay59]

Maybe this will help you understand:

"Though often used interchangeably, equality and equity are quite different. If fairness is the goal, equality and equity are two processes through which we can achieve it. Equality simply means everyone is treated the same exact way, regardless of need or any other individual difference. Equity, on the other hand, means everyone is provided with what they need to succeed. In an equality model, a coach gives all of his players the exact same shoes. In an equity model, the coach gives all of his players shoes that are their size.

Another example is how children of color are not provided with the means to succeed is how schools are funded. Funded by property taxes from poor communities, rather than from a state's general fund just perpetuates their inequity.

"Equity goes beyond simple inequality by implying that the disparities are avoidable and unjust. It suggests that the differences are a result of systemic biases or discriminatory practices that could be rectified."

You might consider taking some remedial training:

"Remedial training, also known as remedial teaching or remedial education, is a form of instruction designed to address specific learning gaps or difficulties that a student may be experiencing. It often involves providing extra support, reteaching concepts, and offering alternative teaching methods to help students improve their skills and abilities."...

I understood the first time and Equality is the standard.

Equity is a dog whistle for outcome oriented policy making DEI systemic racism.

 

[Moderate Right]

Trump has begun his fascist Indoctrination of America's children. Not only is Trump diverting millions from our public schools to religious and for profit schools, he's attempting to mold our students into his vision of a "patriotic American". By virtue of Trump's all powerful, unquestioning right to dictate what American students will, or will not be exposed to in K12 classrooms, he decrees that;

“Discriminatory equity ideology” means an ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups..."
"An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race, color, sex, or national origin, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously"
"White Privilege” or “unconscious bias,” actually promotes racial discrimination..."
I.e. Whites are the real victims of discrimination.

Trump claims that;
"..young men and women are made to question whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies"
E.g. White kids might get the crazy idea that their ancestors created a system that has kept blacks from attaining equity in, wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes.

"eliminating Federal funding or support for illegal and discriminatory treatment and indoctrination in K-12 schools, including based on gender ideology and discriminatory equity ideology"
I.e. Systemic And Structural Racism does not exist.

To ensure his dictates will be enforced, Trump has created a group of ideologues to oversee that his demands will be met;
"The 1776 Commission shall be composed of not more than 20 members, who shall be appointed by the President for a term of 2 years. The 1776 Commission shall be made up of individuals from outside the Federal Government with relevant experience or subject-matter expertise.
E.g. Fox commentators.

It's said that, "history is written by the victors". Which is generally true, for example, Trump won the election enabling him to whitewash American history. Although in the case of The Civil War, while blacks won their freedom, its history was written by both Northern and Southern whites...

All Trump is doing is undoctrinating the leftist's indoctrination.

 

[WisconIndependent]

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity

SO you are saying that there is no racism in this country except that perpetrated by DEI, Really? Then what are all of the white supremist groups and the American Nazi party groups in this country. Thy were created by DEI, really? Sorry, but racism and other types of racist or religious discrimination thrives in the country and pointing it out is not creating it.

 

[Jay59]

SO you are saying that there is no racism in this country except that perpetrated by DEI, Really?

I stated that DEI is per se racism.

The rest is from you.

Then what are all of the white supremist groups and the American Nazi party groups in this country.

Where are these mythical hoards?

They are more spoken of than seen.

Thy were created by DEI, really?

You said that.

I said that DEI is racism.

Sorry, but racism and other types of racist or religious discrimination thrives in the country and pointing it out is not creating it.

You should apologize. and read more closely.

 

[SoCal]

I understood the first time and Equality is the standard.

Equity is a dog whistle for outcome oriented policy making DEI systemic racism.

Dancing around my points rather than addressing them might make your posts a little persuasive.

If we had policies that didn't result in the huge disparities between the wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes between whites and blacks, we wouldn't need DEI programs. Do you really believe these inequities that have existed since our country's founding, are only the result of, 'bad decision making, not working hard, welfare, etc? Blaming the victims and claiming they're getting what they deserve is just living in denial. Conservatives tend to view America through rose colored glasses...

 

[Helix]

I will be teaching my kids to be nice.

 

[Jay59]

Dancing around my points rather than addressing them might make your posts a little persuasive.

If we had policies that didn't result in the huge disparities between the wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes between whites and blacks, we wouldn't need DEI programs. Do you really believe these inequities that have existed since our country's founding, are only the result of, 'bad decision making, not working hard, welfare, etc? Blaming the victims and claiming they're getting what they deserve is just living in denial. Conservatives tend to view America through rose colored glasses...

Racism in support of a minority is still racism. DEI is and always was racism.

That's not dancing.

 

[SoCal]

Racism in support of a minority is still racism. DEI is and always was racism...

Racism in support of a majority is still racism. The status quo was, is and always will be racism until it's addressed. Unless you believe the huge disparities between the wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes between whites and blacks is because they make bad decisions, they don't work hard, etc. for the last 249 years...

...That's not dancing.

That not address my points. See above...

 

[WisconIndependent]

I stated that DEI is per se racism.

The rest is from you.


Where are these mythical hoards?

They are more spoken of than seen.


You said that.

I said that DEI is racism.


You should apologize. and read more closely.

White nationalist hate groups have grown 55% in Trump era, report finds

Southern Poverty Law Center warns of growing movement driven by ‘fear of demographic change’

www.theguardian.com

Yes there are many white supremacists groups in this country and under Trump's leadership the appear to be growing. And you were wrong as usual, dei is a way to remove the effects of racism. I would place a bet that you are white, Christian and MAGA.

 

[Diving Mullah]

Racism in support of a minority is still racism. DEI is and always was racism.

That's not dancing.

It’s both funny and sad that those who are utterly opposed to DEI often don’t actually understand what DEI is.


I suppose the old adage is true: people lash out at things they don’t understand. But honestly, this really takes the cake.



Diving Mullah

 

[Jay59]

It’s both funny and sad that those who are utterly opposed to DEI often don’t actually understand what DEI is.

That would be you.

What do you not understand about why DEI is a bad thing?

I suppose the old adage is true: people lash out at things they don’t understand. But honestly, this really takes the cake.

I feel your lash.

You are still in the wrong.

Diving Mullah

 

[Scatty Kitty]

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity

As a teacher I'm curious, what's the difference between DEI and your school's stance on racism? I'm assuming your school holds that racism is wrong.

 

[BirdinHand]

. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable

Equity is a dog whistle for outcome oriented policy making DEI systemic racism

I stated that DEI is per se racism

They'll be produced in Alabama to serve American demand. canada loses again

Alarming that a supposed teacher doesn’t recognize that DEI has to do with a lot more than race.

And in schools, often is focused on the inclusion of special education students and equity for students with disabilities and making sure that they have the supports necessary to access FAPE.


But…hey

Tell us again how it just is racism by a different name.

 

[Diving Mullah]

That would be you.

What do you not understand about why DEI is a bad thing?


I feel your lash.

You are still in the wrong.

Oh, your lexicon prowess is just incredible. Because clearly, no one could ever mess up the timeless classic, ‘It’s not me, it’s you.’ Genius

Driving Mullah

 

[Jay59]

It’s both funny and sad that those who are utterly opposed to DEI often don’t actually understand what DEI is.

It is not difficult to understand.

I suppose the old adage is true: people lash out at things they don’t understand. But honestly, this really takes the cake.
Diving Mullah

Feel free to explain how systematic racial injustice is a good thing.

Alarming that a supposed teacher doesn’t recognize that DEI has to do with a lot more than race.

Perhaps in theory.

Not in application.

And in schools, often is focused on the inclusion of special education students and equity for students with disabilities and making sure that they have the supports necessary to access FAPE. But…hey

You love your acronyms.

Appropriate is such a slippery term.

Tell us again how it just is racism by a different name.

In my case, the school is 54% Hispanic, 35% Black, and 8% white.

What steps are needed to insure the small white minority receives appropriate instruction?

 

[Scatty Kitty]

Racism in support of a minority is still racism. DEI is and always was racism.

That's not dancing.

So is teaching about Black history month in support of black Americans also racism?

 

[j brown's body]

Trump has begun his fascist Indoctrination of America's children. Not only is Trump diverting millions from our public schools to religious and for profit schools, he's attempting to mold our students into his vision of a "patriotic American". By virtue of Trump's all powerful, unquestioning right to dictate what American students will, or will not be exposed to in K12 classrooms, he decrees that;

“Discriminatory equity ideology” means an ideology that treats individuals as members of preferred or disfavored groups..."
"An individual, by virtue of the individual’s race, color, sex, or national origin, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously"
"White Privilege” or “unconscious bias,” actually promotes racial discrimination..."
I.e. Whites are the real victims of discrimination.

Trump claims that;
"..young men and women are made to question whether to view their parents and their reality as enemies"
E.g. White kids might get the crazy idea that their ancestors created a system that has kept blacks from attaining equity in, wealth, employment, homeownership, income, education and health outcomes.

"eliminating Federal funding or support for illegal and discriminatory treatment and indoctrination in K-12 schools, including based on gender ideology and discriminatory equity ideology"
I.e. Systemic And Structural Racism does not exist.

To ensure his dictates will be enforced, Trump has created a group of ideologues to oversee that his demands will be met;
"The 1776 Commission shall be composed of not more than 20 members, who shall be appointed by the President for a term of 2 years. The 1776 Commission shall be made up of individuals from outside the Federal Government with relevant experience or subject-matter expertise.
E.g. Fox commentators.

It's said that, "history is written by the victors". Which is generally true, for example, Trump won the election enabling him to whitewash American history. Although in the case of The Civil War, while blacks won their freedom, its history was written by both Northern and Southern whites...

A curriculum based on "Rah, Rah America" may be dishonest in its focus on sunny ideas, like slavery taught them a trade, but worse than that, it's apt to be boring.

 

[BirdinHand]

It is not difficult to understand.


Feel free to explain how systematic racial injustice is a good thing.


Perhaps in theory.

Not in application.


You love your acronyms.

Appropriate is such a slippery term.


In my case, the school is 54% Hispanic, 35% Black, and 8% white.

What steps are needed to insure the small white minority receives appropriate instruction?

Well, step one would be a smarter teacher based on what you post on this forum

 

[j brown's body]

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity

DEI isn't racist. In fact, white women and disabled benefit from it. It makes no claim that one race is better than another.

DEI is an effort to fill positions with a demographic that reflects society. For generations, those positions were tilted toward male, white and the able-bodied That was racist. DEI is an effort to rectify that by seeking out others who have been overlooked, but are otherwise qualified.

You might argue it's discriminatory, as Ibram X Kendi argues in How to Be an Anti-racist:

“The only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination. As President Lyndon B. Johnson said in 1965, “You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, ‘You are free to compete with all the others,’ and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.” As U.S. Supreme Court Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in 1978, “In order to get beyond racism, we must first take account of race. There is no other way. And in order to treat some persons equally, we must treat them differently.”

 

[US&THEM]

If you want to be a good revisionist, your output needs work. As a teacher myself, I find this laughable.

For example, DEI was systemic racism to favor a minority. Another is that the standard is equality, not equity

Here we go