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ER, I meant to type some in every healthcare system can't afford healthcare....:roll:
They all look bad because the White House consistently played this down against those who were obviously right all along. His Wednesday speech was a disaster that made a bad situation even worse, thus Friday's speech was absolutely about personal re-election damage control and nothing else. We can say this because, despite issuing the emergency order, he went on to declare that he would not take a test while his idiot son-in-law declared that this is not so much a health reality.
But now that Trump is playing the leader in his USA hat (not a MAGA hat) he is trying to present a persona that he is personally all over this for America because "Obama's" system had failed. The man has based his entire presidency on an anti-Obama agenda and clinging to false credit for the economic trend he inherited. From this, his cult has created a symbiotic relationship where these twin things help them all ignore everything else, thus reality.
- Trump stupidly gutted the entire global-health-security unit of the National Security Council, along with eliminating the US government's $30m Complex Crises Fund. What was once a celebration for being anti-Obama has turned into something that he pretends not to know anything about. The system was set up to immediately launch into react mode, before Trump sleazed into the White House.
- There is no way that he wasn't a part of the CDC rejecting the World Health Organization's approved kits back in January as the rest of the world was taking them. One has to believe that he is completely oblivious of his White House, which is contrary to his own description of himself, or he was involved. From here one might speculate on things such as his anti-internationalism, his rejection of international organizations, and his intense focus to please corporation, for which he praised one during his emergency declaration last Friday as its stock went through the roof.
- After accusing Democrats and the world's media, for a couple months, of just "trying to hurt him" for their exaggeration of this virus, while he wore a "vote-for-me" hat to a crisis center, he now declares a state of emergency in a USA hat in order to imply that he has been with us all along and that he is a true commander-in-chief...while playing his blame-Obama game in order to deny himself his failed responsibilities.
* And what did we see with this "emergency?" Prior to him acknowledging (without actually acknowledging) that he was wrong, it was Democrats in Congress and Republicans in heavily-affected states that had been urging Trump to issue the order. It was only after he presented public diarrhea in his Wednesday speech that saw the Stock Market sink even deeper, thus signaling that his concern was not the American people, but Stocks, thus his re-election. We discovered that it was Pelosi & Co. that had reached a deal with Trump on a package to assist people affected by the outbreak, which included two weeks of paid sick leave, up to three months of paid family and medical leave, free virus testing for those without insurance, and food aid. That is a **** ton of socialism.
Prior to this, conservatives raged and raged about "socialism" and how government health programs in Europe is why they are having difficulty. Considering that they have long had kits and have been addressing this since January, this is an ignorant assessment. But most shocking is how Trump has embraced socialism as a remedy, thus copying European systems; and his constituency are completely ignoring it. Once again, we see their blind devotion to Trump forcing them to contradict who they think they are as they scramble about to re-define themselves to accommodate his latest behavior.
And the truly sad thing, in regards to re-election dreams, is that Trump really flushed an obviously golden opportunity here. Had he come out in January in his USA hat and spoke to the world about how we have to work together to aggressively attack this new unknown virus, he would have injected global confidence in America, injected confidence in the global Markets, and calmed people who were looking for honesty and answers. But Trump allowed his ego to once again lead the way and he blundered once again. Now he is trying to do what he should have done three months ago and his faithful cult is pretending that history began on Friday when he signed the emergency order.
Sooooo... you are so far down the socialist rabbit hole that having too few ICU beds in time of crisis is preferable to having enough because... why?
Not Trump's ego. Trump was trying to pacify the herd mentality. Trump lost.
Why do you think Trump shouldn't be left off the hook? Will you ever leave Trump off the hook?I think this lets him off the hook. No matter what, our economy is tied to the global economy that we purposefully created in 1943. And we have historical examples of a single Market affecting other Markets in the world since. Thus, as Markets in Asia and Europe began reacting to consumer panic, our own reacted too. Clearly, Trump's insistence that this was nothing for two months was about trying to force the Stock Market to shrug.
But Trump is supposed to be a businessman. He prides himself on ignoring his bankruptcy history and promoting himself as God's gift to economy and deal making. Of course, he needs to pretend that he didn't inherit this economy and that his presidency is littered with busted deals in which no replacements come. But as a businessman, he should know how the global economy works. Clearly, he did not and clearly he still doesn't know the true power of the White House in the world. Thus far, his idea of power has been negative in nature. He has used the White House to denigrate international organizations, insult allies, create disasters in foreign policy, and increase hate in our enemies...all the while pompously parading around his perverted sense of America First. His anti-Democrat, anti-media, anti-professionalism, anti-education, anti-experience, and anti-internationalism has defined his White House power. In order to agree with the media, Democrats (and plenty of Republicans), foreign governments, and international organizations over the last two months, Trump would have had to set his ego aside. Again, a businessman should know how the Stock Market works. Callously dismissing what the entire world is seeing and reacting to was always going to be counterproductive to stocks, because investors have to weigh that reality to an American President who refuses to lift a finger.
In terms of a herd, I would submit that the herd spent two months defending Trump's callousness despite their environment, and have now switched over to declaring Trump a great leader because he finally gave in and issued an emergency order, thereby contradicting his last two month's worth of bad leadership. Of course, I would call them more of an irrational mob that was herded into a cult-like flock of lemmings that can't think for itself...but I digress.
Trump was just trying to curb the herd mentality. You can't blame him. Look at how the stampede has destroyed the US?
Why do you think Trump shouldn't be left off the hook? Will you ever leave Trump off the hook?
Not Trump's ego. Trump was trying to pacify the herd mentality. Trump lost.
When you realize that the current 1,016 deaths in Italy with a population of 60 million would be the equivalent of 5,400 deaths in the United States instead of the 41 deaths we have had so far, you can see what milder, slower and less aggressive responses might have cost in lives. Then we would have needed to move to truly draconian measures of isolation and shutdowns.
Newt Gingrich: I Am in Italy Amid the Coronavirus Crisis. America Must Act Now—And Act Big | Opinion
I can't get past the idea you think healthcare is a right and you also think you're right libertarian. Help me out.
Referring to the current crisis, altruism over profit. With real national leadership we would have been much better prepared.
Well, no. There is arguably a single country that had a faster response in the fashion that you demand, and the jury is still out on whether that response will actually yield better outcomes.
It will be interesting to see how you all spin this when it fails to be the disaster you need it to be.
Let's hope it fails to be a disaster (ignoring your cheap shot).
You go ahead on, bud, and do what you are going to do.
Stop cherry-picking and try reading my actual posts: Healthcare is, indeed, a right, but no one has the right to make others pay for it.
I can't tell if a person online is a real American, an intelligent American, a foreigner or just an idiot, so I treat everyone the same until given a reason not to do so.
Per our Founding Fathers, we all have every right, unalienable rights including the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. It's the authoritarian assholes who keep saying things like "You don't have that right" and "Where in the Constitution do you have that right?".
You have a right to medical care but you don't have a right to make someone give it to you.
You have a right to buy things but you don't have a right to make someone sell it to you.
You have a right to drive a car but you don't have a right to drive over people or on private property.
Is any of this making sense to you?
You know the difference between right and privilige?
Yes. Do you know the meaning of this sentence?: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Anyone has the right to fulfillment of happiness but someone doesn't have the right to make themselves happy?
Anyone has the right to fulfillment of happiness but someone doesn't have the right to make themselves happy?
The death panel has spoken.
Italy has more hospital beds per capita than we do.
It isn't about the number of hospital beds. It is about the eagerness of the left to dispose of the elderly or any other non-productive member of society. Give them any excuse, and they will gladly kill off "undesirables" to use the exact word FDR used when he instituted his forcible sterilization program with his Tennessee Valley Authority project. It was going to be his model for rural electrification throughout the US. Thankfully WW II delayed the project and the fascist died before he could implement it and slaughter tens of thousands of Americans. It is a very common trait among leftists. Mussolini and Hitler both had that same characteristic.
Wrong forum... I think you meant to post this here: https://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/
It clearly is the correct forum, as Italy demonstrates the exact same measures Mussolini took when he controlled fascist Italy. Screw the elderly and the poor, currently the Italian motto and if you had your way it would no doubt be the motto for the US as well. Leftists are all the same.
You're getting closer; everyone has the right to fulfillment of happiness and, yes, they have the right to make themselves happy but they don't have a right to make others pay for it or to deprive others of their rights to do it. An example would be gun bans and gun confiscations. Sure, it makes the Democrat anti-gun mob happy but it not only makes the pro-Second Amendment citizens unhappy but deprives them of an essential right.
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