Pre-flight quarantines are impractical for 21 days.pre-flight makes more sense, because otherwise, there would have to be quarantines at every stop on connecting flights.
unfortunately, it's likely that this won't be done unless the problem becomes a multi-continent epidemic. we should do it now.
We need to suspend all travel between The United States and Africa and seal the border.
Pre-flight quarantines are impractical for 21 days.
No way it can be done or people will answer honestly.
This particular victim (they say) knew he was exposed before he left, carrying a pregnant victim.
If you were sick or suspected you were, in Liberia, you might do the same.
Your chances here are definitely much better.
We need an international effort in West Africa and I think the USA and EU should ban all flights from Sierra Leone and Liberia.
There's not enough urgent travel business of any kind from those countries compared to the risk of spreading the virus.
That said I think this is going t be very limited as contagion is not east. Not like ie, SARS.
This has been another Comedy of errors after the Secret Service.
The Hospital Blew it Big Time.
The CDC finally is getting some help to this man's care-giving woman, ONLY after hearing of her plight on CNN. She didn't know what to do with all the sheets, towels, etc.
Now there sending a Med disposal team.
Three weeks for who?so you quarantine them in a monitored facility. sure, it will be extremely inconvenient, but so is a pandemic.
Banning flights to the USA/EU is easily the most sensible option compared to quarantine.Helix said:that's the other option.
Keystone Kops Secret Service, Dallas Hospital, and CDC.Helix said:yeah, this kind of stuff should be taken more seriously.
Three weeks for who?
Everyone stays in a hotel for 3 weeks before they leave or just the ones who [admit] they had contact?
Ridiculous.
Banning flights to the USA/EU is easily the most sensible option compared to quarantine.
There's NO urgent biz or economically significant tourism compared to the Risk.
Keystone Kops Secret Service, Dallas Hospital, and CDC.
Well stated.I was in a briefing concerning the Dallas patient and the risks this virus poses to the general public, and you're right. Because the on-set of Ebola mimics flu-like symptoms it's very easy for people to brush it off as if they just have a common cold or flu. It's not until the symptoms get worse - severe headache, fever, vomiting, diarrhea and especially the bleeding - do people begin to take notice (code for PANIC!). The good news is you'll know you've contracted the virus within 4-11 days. The bad news is at least half the people who develop symptoms will likely die.
The only way to beat this virus is to quarantine everyone whose been exposed for at least 21 days and to decontaminate or burn (as necessary) everything they've touched. We may have a very good public health system, but this is a germ you don't want to get out into the general population.
I don't know if we've failed just yet. People who health officials believe may have been exposed have been told to stay indoors. It's hard to put a cop at everyone's front door, but if folks start flooding hospitals from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area I'd definitely consider putting the entire city on lockdown if I were the mayor/Governor.
Your concern about us being too slow to act appropriately is valid, and the reason for our delay to enact appropriate quarantines is likely a combination of feeling "bullet-proof" in a country with our CDC and concern that the media will play everything up to the degree it will spook the economy. Both these reasons are foolish ones upon which to base delaying implementing a multi-million people life-saving measure.Agreed, but we have already failed that standard and there is no will as yet to live up to it. Not to mention, the virus going airborne is not the only mutation danger. It could jump species (again). Imagine if it were to jump bovine.
It's important to remember that once a person begins showing symptoms, it feels like a cold .. the next day, it feels like the flu .. the third day and the fourth day it feels like a really, really bad flu and only then do half the people so suffering seek medical help, the other half (if they can afford it) sought help on the first or second day.I'm thinking of the consequences of a nationwide epidemic that could kill tens of thousands of Americans.
Mornin' DA .
Also this morning they are saying Hawaii may have another potential case.
The die is already cast for Dallas/Ft. Worth.I don't know if we've failed just yet. People who health officials believe may have been exposed have been told to stay indoors. It's hard to put a cop at everyone's front door, but if folks start flooding hospitals from the Dallas/Ft. Worth area I'd definitely consider putting the entire city on lockdown if I were the mayor/Governor.
It is not "paranoia" to be rightly concerned about the imminent spread of Ebola in the United States.
As the realities I presented here attest -- http://www.debatepolitics.com/health-care/204375-causes-virus-like-ebola-become-airborne-right-host.html -- America is the precise melting-pot the virus needs to find the right host to mutate to airborne spread.
But even without that pending mutation, studies in other links on the topic in this forum reveal that Ebola can remain on materials touched by a symptomatic patient for more than six days .. materials such as chairs, stair railings, kitchen cupboards, bathroom fixtures .. and classroom desks. Considering people touch their face over a thousand times a day -- which includes the entry points of mouth, nose, eyes -- the spread of Ebola even prior to it mutating to airborne is a piece of cake.
Because it comes on looking like the flu, parents and others caring for an Ebola sufferer will be exposed .. and many will still go to work when they experience "flu" symptoms, because they can't afford to take a day off, what with the post-Great Recession under-paid reaction still harming millions of Americans.
Sadly, there are many people .. and D.P. posters .. who are ideologically paranoid that this or that favorite politician or party will take the hit for the inevitable outbreak in the U.S., and they're downplaying the whole thing as their political paradigm deems appropriate, much like the Global Warming "debate" .. and likewise to the great detriment of Americans.
Yes, add all these factors together, and we are ripe for a major, major health disaster here.
The time has come to be safe, not sorry.
Tell all your elected and appointed officials to act strongly, with very liberal quarantines, and act now, before Ebola's spread and the associated panic sets in that will cripple America's and the world's economies. Downplaying both the health and economic potential of this deadly to-those-of-all-ages disease is simply stupid, and those who do so for political-allegiance reasons are behaving most egregiously.
A word to the wise.
Tick tock, people.
Oh sh**!
I'm heading to Hawaii for 10 days starting tomorrow.
Hopefully, my pina colada diet will keep the virus at bay.
Yeah, and lets hope no volcano pops off while some Hurricane rolls in why you are there.We sure wouldn't want to see that happen.....huh?
I think we're safe from hurricanes, but those volcanoes are notoriously unpredictable.
I'm staying in Kauai--no active volcanoes.
I like my survival chances.
Thanks.I heard Charo has a restaurant down there in Kauai.....she use to be hottie back in the day. Don't know if it is still there. But it was a great place. Hope ya have a great time.
Well, it IS Hawaii.....Oh, and don't forget to take a Bio-Hazard Suit with ya when ya return......the Air Port Terminal may be under Quarantine. :2razz:
Thanks.
Is Charo the young babe who was married to the old fart bandleader.
I'm fairly certain Charo would be the old fart now.
I'll google her possible great restaurant.
Well, it IS Hawaii.....
I'd rather be quarantined in Hawaii than Liberia.
Good looking back in the day.
Recent pictures not so....umm....appealing?....
Kinda has that Dyan Cannon look....clinging to her lost babehood maybe.
Yeah, and I think she had plastic surgery on her face.....she has to be like close to 70 or 75 now. So no.....not so great looking now.
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