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Egypt's Mubarak resigns as leader


I thought conservatives were principled. Not.
 
reality moment: the Egyptians no longer have constitutional rights.

Reality moment: The Egyptian Armed Forces have not dissolved the Constitution.
 
Wow. I felt chills today watching the jubilation in Egypt that I haven't experienced since watching the Berlin Wall crumble... on my birthday!! These people have gambled with their very lives, because they believed that death was better than living in terror, poverty, humiliation and bone-chilling fear. For 30 years they have lived under Martial Law, under the thumb of a tyrant who sent secret police out to brutalize the populace at will. Now they have a chance at freedom and democracy. So many of them were crying on tv that they have their dignity now, that they feel as if they are worth something as people.

Mubarak may have been a pro-western tyrant, but he made his people feel worthless. That anyone on this forum or anywhere else could believe that we should have done something to help a vicious dictator continue to abuse his people because it was in our best interests is astounding. This is America, remember? We're supposed to stand for freedom and democracy. We'll deal with Egypt's next government, the government the people choose, which may not be the government we would have preferred. Tough noogies for us.

This has been a glorious day for Egypt. I feel like I have watched the birth of a nation. Oh, I know, time will tell, but let me be happy for them for at least one day. And I AM happy for them.

The conservative woe-is-me bitchfest in this thread... not so much.
 

Well unions did play a significant role, and you know how evil unions are...
 
I thought conservatives were principled. Not.

The Egyptian military deposed a dictator. We will see what happens.

The American people are responsible for the liberty of the American people. The American people have no obligations to foreigners.
 
The Egyptian military deposed a dictator.
Erm, no. The military has taken control of the government at the behest of the anti-Mubarak population, pressure from the protests and global support forced Mubarak to quit.
 

When asked what kind of government Egypt will have, perhaps a wise leader there will reply, as Benjamin Franklin once did, "A Republic, if we can keep it". In the end, it is ultimately up to the people of Egypt to decide.
 
When asked what kind of government Egypt will have, perhaps a wise leader there will reply, as Benjamin Franklin once did, "A Republic, if we can keep it". In the end, it is ultimately up to the people of Egypt to decide.

There is no such thing as the "people of egypt" as a political force.
 
You're right. Mubarak is still in office.

If you think that this was an action taken by the entire "people of Egypt" then you are sorely mistaken. If that were the case then it would not have dragged out for so long. It is even more absurd to think that the "people of Egypt" as a whole are going to come together to discuss and collectively decide the formation of their new government. That is not how politics works, especially revolutions, even democratic ones.
 
Erm, no. The military has taken control of the government at the behest of the anti-Mubarak population, pressure from the protests and global support forced Mubarak to quit.

One of us is a sophist.
 
When asked what kind of government Egypt will have, perhaps a wise leader there will reply, as Benjamin Franklin once did, "A Republic, if we can keep it". In the end, it is ultimately up to the people of Egypt to decide.

We'll see if the people get to actually decide.
 
When asked what kind of government Egypt will have, perhaps a wise leader there will reply, as Benjamin Franklin once did, "A Republic, if we can keep it". In the end, it is ultimately up to the people of Egypt to decide.

Well... they lean more to bin Ladin than bin Franklin. Their wise leader looks more like the puckhead that left Paris and went back to Iran to enslave the people.

Instead of preaching freedom, equality under the eyes of the law and basic human rights as bin Franklin and his pals did, ... we have a society that seems to want to crawl back towards the 7th century. If that is what they want... fine. But if they start messing with us or our allies... Beware! should be our early and clear warning (in diplomatic channels). Hostilities will be met with swift and decisive action.

... the peace between the Palestinians and Israeli's will be the least of our worries. It seem like a flea like problem in comparison to what seems to be coming.

How can one say this... based on the following:

Democrat strategist Doug Schoen believes it won't be so pretty because (polls from various sources):

 
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You know that the military, who just had power handed to them, was trained by the US and is warmer to US-Egypt relations than the older generation in the Egyptian military that were trained by the Soviets?
 
Yes, that's exactly what he means.
 
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No, I did not.
 
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he has done the same thing all over the board Hugh
 
That scares me.
 
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