Dumping Kasich and Supporting Rubio

[Moderate Right]

I really liked Kasich but he is getting no traction. He's been treading water for quite some time now and it won't be too much longer before he goes under. Probably after New Hampshire because he's putting all his eggs in that basket and it doesn't seem to even be working there. I like Rubio. Don't ever remember hearing him say something that I didn't like. He represents young blood, minority blood, kind of like the average American Joe. He has the best negativity ratio of all the candidates. With the right VP pick I think he could easily beat Hillary. It is time to get rid of the perception that the Republican party only represents old rich white people.

 

[radioman]

I really liked Kasich but he is getting no traction. He's been treading water for quite some time now and it won't be too much longer before he goes under. Probably after New Hampshire because he's putting all his eggs in that basket and it doesn't seem to even be working there. I like Rubio. Don't ever remember hearing him say something that I didn't like. He represents young blood, minority blood, kind of like the average American Joe. He has the best negativity ratio of all the candidates. With the right VP pick I think he could easily beat Hillary. It is time to get rid of the perception that the Republican party only represents old rich white people.

I don't disagree with much in your post.
The only problem with Rubio---and Kasich, for that matter---is that he's considered a RINO by the GOP base.
His squishy immigration stance is anathema to the base.
Hillary is definitely beatable depending on her opponent.

 

[Moderate Right]

I don't disagree with much in your post.
The only problem with Rubio---and Kasich, for that matter---is that he's considered a RINO by the GOP base.
His squishy immigration stance is anathema to the base.
Hillary is definitely beatable depending on her opponent.

I disagree with your (and everyone's) definition of the "base". Most people think of the Republican base as being the far right Christians. I really don't understand why they call them the base because the base, in reality, is the majority of the Republican voters. These registered Republicans voted for both McCain and Romney, who were clearly not really liked by the those far right Christians in those last elections. Therefore, the "base" are moderates, not the far right and that's why both McCain and Romney won.

 

[reason10]

I really liked Kasich but he is getting no traction. He's been treading water for quite some time now and it won't be too much longer before he goes under. Probably after New Hampshire because he's putting all his eggs in that basket and it doesn't seem to even be working there. I like Rubio. Don't ever remember hearing him say something that I didn't like. He represents young blood, minority blood, kind of like the average American Joe. He has the best negativity ratio of all the candidates. With the right VP pick I think he could easily beat Hillary. It is time to get rid of the perception that the Republican party only represents old rich white people.

Kasich is a great candidate. He's just in the wrong party. He should be HIllary's running mate. He and her are practically on the same page.

 

[reason10]

I disagree with your (and everyone's) definition of the "base". Most people think of the Republican base as being the far right Christians. I really don't understand why they call them the base because the base, in reality, is the majority of the Republican voters. These registered Republicans voted for both McCain and Romney, who were clearly not really liked by the those far right Christians in those last elections. Therefore, the "base" are moderates, not the far right and that's why both McCain and Romney won.

Two of the candidates went after the base. One was Cruz (who even said before he announced for president that he would first tie does the base) and the other was Trump. It's likely that they will be the ticket to beat.

 

[countryboy]

I disagree with your (and everyone's) definition of the "base". Most people think of the Republican base as being the far right Christians. I really don't understand why they call them the base because the base, in reality, is the majority of the Republican voters. These registered Republicans voted for both McCain and Romney, who were clearly not really liked by the those far right Christians in those last elections. Therefore, the "base" are moderates, not the far right and that's why both McCain and Romney won.

McCain and Romney lost. ???

 

[Moderate Right]

Kasich is a great candidate. He's just in the wrong party. He should be HIllary's running mate. He and her are practically on the same page.

I disagree with that because I can't stand Hillary and is too liberal for me. Kasich is in the middle but is quite different than Hillary.

 

[Moderate Right]

Two of the candidates went after the base. One was Cruz (who even said before he announced for president that he would first tie does the base) and the other was Trump. It's likely that they will be the ticket to beat.

I don't totally agree with that analysis. Cruz did go for the "base" as he is the "base". While Trump appeals to the anti-immigration crowd, there are many things about him that would not appeal to the "base" and he is not going to win Iowa because of it. Neither will be around in the end to even be VP.

 

[Moderate Right]

McCain and Romney lost. ???

I see you noticed that but you are adding two and two together and getting something other than four. The base, the base that I am referring to, elected both McCain and Romney because the base is moderate, not far right. They also correctly realized that a moderate had a better chance of winning those elections than a far right winger, such as a Cruz or a Huckabee are, even though it didn't work out that way. It is a mistake to believe that if a far right winger had been running that they would have beaten Obama. I don't consider Trump a far right winger, even though a small handful of his ideas appeal to the far right.

 

[countryboy]

I see you noticed that but you are adding two and two together and getting something other than four. The base, the base that I am referring to, elected both McCain and Romney because the base is moderate, not far right. They also correctly realized that a moderate had a better chance of winning those elections than a far right winger, such as a Cruz or a Huckabee are, even though it didn't work out that way. It is a mistake to believe that if a far right winger had been running that they would have beaten Obama. I don't consider Trump a far right winger, even though a small handful of his ideas appeal to the far right.

Obviously they didn't have a "better chance of winning", since they lost.

The republican base is very conservative, which is WHY they lost.

 

[Moderate Right]

Obviously they didn't have a "better chance of winning", since they lost.

The republican base is very conservative, which is WHY they lost.

That's hogwash. If the Republican base was "very conservative" then why did the Republican base even vote for McCain and Romney in the first place? In the general election the left votes for the Democrats and the right votes for the Republicans but the center and the Independents vote for either one or the other. If the Republicans lose then they try claiming that their base didn't show up to vote and when the Democrats lose they try claiming that their base didn't show up to vote. It isn't anyone's base who wins elections, it is the votes of the Centrists and Independents.

 

[countryboy]

That's hogwash. If the Republican base was "very conservative" then why did the Republican base even vote for McCain and Romney in the first place? In the general election the left votes for the Democrats and the right votes for the Republicans but the center and the Independents vote for either one or the other. If the Republicans lose then they try claiming that their base didn't show up to vote and when the Democrats lose they try claiming that their base didn't show up to vote. It isn't anyone's base who wins elections, it is the votes of the Centrists and Independents.

You don't think democrats vote in republican primaries? If its hogwash, why did they lose the generals? :shrug:

 

[Moderate Right]

You don't think democrats vote in republican primaries? If its hogwash, why did they lose the generals? :shrug:

Are you trying to say that the Democrats rigged the Republican primaries by voting in those primaries instead of their own? That's lunacy. I'm sure it might happen to a very small degree but not to a big enough degree that it would make any difference. The Republicans tried the very same thing. If you really believe that what makes you think this primary will be any different? By the way, McCain and Romney lost, not because the "base" didn't get out to vote but because the centrists and Independents didn't vote Republican enough to carry the election. I'm an independent and I actually voted for Obama over Romney myself. Don't tell anyone though because I'm not proud of that decision. In the current environment the electoral college is kind of stacked against the Republicans. They don't have much room for error.

 

[countryboy]

Are you trying to say that the Democrats rigged the Republican primaries by voting in those primaries instead of their own? That's lunacy. I'm sure it might happen to a very small degree but not to a big enough degree that it would make any difference. The Republicans tried the very same thing. If you really believe that what makes you think this primary will be any different? By the way, McCain and Romney lost, not because the "base" didn't get out to vote but because the centrists and Independents didn't vote Republican enough to carry the election. I'm an independent and I actually voted for Obama over Romney myself. Don't tell anyone though because I'm not proud of that decision. In the current environment the electoral college is kind of stacked against the Republicans. They don't have much room for error.

Fortunately, most republicans would stay home before voting for the likes of Obama. That is more likely what happened. I can see how you came to your conclusion though.

 

[Moderate Right]

It's been a long time since a Republican presidential candidate outright won a presidential election. If I had to guess I would say it was GHWB in 1988?

 

[cpwill]

I really liked Kasich but he is getting no traction. He's been treading water for quite some time now and it won't be too much longer before he goes under. Probably after New Hampshire because he's putting all his eggs in that basket and it doesn't seem to even be working there. I like Rubio. Don't ever remember hearing him say something that I didn't like. He represents young blood, minority blood, kind of like the average American Joe. He has the best negativity ratio of all the candidates. With the right VP pick I think he could easily beat Hillary. It is time to get rid of the perception that the Republican party only represents old rich white people.

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