Donald Trump supporters think they can commit crimes now.

[PNW Guy]

A lot of the MAGA crowd really is so dumb they think because of the January 6th pardons, they can commit crimes for Trump (video subject matter), and this fits right in with the other video, "Understanding Donald Trump supporters.".

(The subject matter. This is a real danger though!)

I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence on more occasions than I can accurately count (less than 12 more than 4, is my estimate for I'm certain MAGAs knowing I was anti MAGA was the ONLY reason). I'm VERY outspoken in real life and on Facebook, I have have three face to face encounters, all of which neither of us wanted it (I think politics is a damn stupid reason to start violence) in three others, I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping, but at least got the satisfaction of showing the real truth, in a fair fight, leftists are almost always far more courageous, and it was in front of women, so those fools got embarrassed by their own dumbassery (as did I, though at least I wasn't the wuss), but there were other more personal reasons involved though the Trump subject tripped the triggers in those.

I would say there have been at least 10-15 incidents of things thrown from cars, or cars with MAGA stickers chasing me down to complain, and every time these road incidents happen, they never actually wanna go unless armed with guns (I've tried), and/or they hurl stuff from moving vehicles and speed off like the chickenshits they are. This town is small, people know you on sight a lot...

This is a dangerous situation, these asswipes never "backed the blue" they're the criminal underworld white supremacists, cooking and selling meth and fentanyl doing the random acts of violence and believing they can, but watch out folks. Be brave as you can, but be careful.

Mind you, this goes all the way back to 2016...

I was abused as a kid, and had for years a hot temper and often started fights, much to my shame. I have gotten so much better at controlling my anger over the years and I am not one to start violence for any reason for many years unless really adrenalined out, and at times I have come close, but this isn't getting better any time soon folks...

Violence never solves anything, it's not even a good "venting release" though if you must, hit a tree with a stuck or invest in a boxer bag. It just doesn't ever help, except to save a life in defense of being a victim, I've yet to see a situation it made anything better, please choose a better path!

 

[Mycroft]

A lot of the MAGA crowd really is so dumb they think because of the January 6th pardons, they can commit crimes for Trump (video subject matter), and this fits right in with the other video, "Understanding Donald Trump supporters.".

(The subject matter. This is a real danger though!)

I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence on more occasions than I can accurately count (less than 12 more than 4, is my estimate for I'm certain MAGAs knowing I was anti MAGA was the ONLY reason). I'm VERY outspoken in real life and on Facebook, I have have three face to face encounters, all of which neither of us wanted it (I think politics is a damn stupid reason to start violence) in three others, I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping, but at least got the satisfaction of showing the real truth, in a fair fight, leftists are almost always far more courageous, and it was in front of women, so those fools got embarrassed by their own dumbassery (as did I, though at least I wasn't the wuss), but there were other more personal reasons involved though the Trump subject tripped the triggers in those.

I would say there have been at least 10-15 incidents of things thrown from cars, or cars with MAGA stickers chasing me down to complain, and every time these road incidents happen, they never actually wanna go unless armed with guns (I've tried), and/or they hurl stuff from moving vehicles and speed off like the chickenshits they are. This town is small, people know you on sight a lot...

This is a dangerous situation, these asswipes never "backed the blue" they're the criminal underworld white supremacists, cooking and selling meth and fentanyl doing the random acts of violence and believing they can, but watch out folks. Be brave as you can, but be careful.

Mind you, this goes all the way back to 2016...

I was abused as a kid, and had for years a hot temper and often started fights, much to my shame. I have gotten so much better at controlling my anger over the years and I am not one to start violence for any reason for many years unless really adrenalined out, and at times I have come close, but this isn't getting better any time soon folks...

Violence never solves anything, it's not even a good "venting release" though if you must, hit a tree with a stuck or invest in a boxer bag. It just doesn't ever help, except to save a life in defense of being a victim, I've yet to see a situation it made anything better, please choose a better path!

So...which is it?

This...

" I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping,"​

...or this?

"I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence"​

​

Or, is it this?​

​

"I'm VERY outspoken in real life"​

You say you are a victim of Trump supporters who want to fight, yet you admit that it's YOU who wants to fight.

Sorry, but you get no sympathy from me.

 

[PNW Guy]

So...which is it?

This...

" I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping,"​

...or this?

"I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence"​

​

Or, is it this?​

​

"I'm VERY outspoken in real life"​

You say you are a victim of Trump supporters who want to fight, yet you admit that it's YOU who wants to fight.

Sorry, but you get no sympathy from me.

You can't read for comprehension clearly, from your post, all your other posts reflect an imaginary reality only you live in, why even respond? I'd kick your ass in a hot second back in the day, or go down tryin' (20 years ago). A few described incidents involved politics and other beefs (started over Trump, BY THEM), those are the only times I wanted to engage, it's decidedly YOUR side that starts violence, it's TRUMPERS. that's a fact. I have NEVER started anything, nor would over politics alone. Now go away please, your posts reflect very low intelligence, and have no substance, ever.

Point is, out of all of that. ONE was brave enough to shove me, and literally promptly speed off in his car. I'm not a cop caller, but had I been injured, hell yes I would have. This was a guy with a Trump flag who nearly hit me in his truck (my bicycle) and cased me down, caught me by surprise (he was at fault, was in crosswalk). Shoves me down then runs back to this truck. I don't believe most of you even have what it takes without a gun to back it up or some kind of weapon, but some do and many have weapons, many of us do too, way more than MAGA thinks.

Again I divorced violence years ago. this is NOT about that, this is your side being literal terrorists over and over, and of course you'll say 'where's the evidence', but that's just all you got, you know better.

 

[PNW Guy]

You can't read for comprehension clearly, from your post, all your other posts reflect an imaginary reality only you live in, why even respond? I'd kick your ass in a hot second back in the day, or go down tryin' (20 years ago). A few described incidents involved politics and other beefs (started over Trump, BY THEM), those are the only times I wanted to engage, it's decidedly YOUR side that starts violence, it's TRUMPERS. that's a fact. I have NEVER started anything, nor would over politics alone. Now go away please, your posts reflect very low intelligence, and have no substance, ever.

Point is, out of all of that. ONE was brave enough to shove me, and literally promptly speed off in his car. I'm not a cop caller, but had I been injured, hell yes I would have. This was a guy with a Trump flag who nearly hit me in his truck (my bicycle) and cased me down, caught me by surprise (he was at fault, was in crosswalk). Shoves me down then runs back to this truck. I don't believe most of you even have what it takes without a gun to back it up or some kind of weapon, but some do and many have weapons, many of us do too, way more than MAGA thinks.

Again I divorced violence years ago. this is NOT about that, this is your side being literal terrorists over and over, and of course you'll say 'where's the evidence', but that's just all you got, you know better.

That's giving you way more explanation than it deserves, possibly up to 20 times violence has been directed at me for no reason, mostly from moving cars with Trump stickers (once Trump spraypaint with tiny swastikas) that's the FACT.

 

[Gozaburo]

OP desperately needs to go outside and touch some grass.

This is a great case study for politically induced neuroticism. Totally repulsive antisocial behavior.

 

[PNW Guy]

OP desperately needs to go outside and touch some grass.

This is a great case study for politically induced neuroticism. Totally repulsive antisocial behavior.

No, it's the reality we live in. Yours was an illegal troll though.

 

[Gozaburo]

No, it's the reality we live in. Yours was an illegal troll though.

It’s the reality you describe. Apparently getting your ass kicked, kicking ass, and being a social pest is your reality.

Sounds like you’d relate more with A Clockwork Orange than you would a grounded middle class American.

 

[PNW Guy]

It’s the reality you describe. Apparently getting your ass kicked, kicking ass, and being a social pest is your reality.

Sounds like you’d relate more with A Clockwork Orange than you would a grounded middle class American.

Your post shows lack of reading comprehension as well, why bother? Clearly you can't argue against my point, I could site sources and you know it, you can't, not real ones.

 

[PNW Guy]

I have actual hopes of discussing the topic so...

Trump's pardons will embolden Proud Boys, other far-right groups, say experts

Summary
Experts warn pardons may boost extremist group activities
Pardons seen as vindication by Trump supporters
Critics argue pardons undermine rule of law, accountability

Jan 21 (Reuters) - (Editor's note: This story contains offensive language)

A day after U.S. President Donald Trump’s sweeping grant of clemency to all of the nearly 1,600 people charged in connection with the 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, America’s far-right celebrated. Some called for the death of judges who oversaw the trials. Others partied and expressed relief. Some even wept with joy.
Several experts who study extremism said the extraordinary reversal for rioters who committed both violent and nonviolent crimes on Jan. 6, including assaulting police officers and seditious conspiracy, will embolden the Proud Boys and other extremist groups such as white supremacists who have openly called for political violence.
In a few pen strokes, Trump reversed the largest U.S. Justice Department investigation and prosecution in history, as he attempted to rewrite what happened during the violent riot on Jan. 6, 2021. As he took office for a second term on Monday, Trump continued to claim, falsely, that the 2020 election was rigged and that he was the rightful winner. He has described the riots as a peaceful “day of love” rather than a melee aimed at overturning the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
"We're not going to put up with that crap anymore," Trump said at a post-inauguration rally on Monday, describing the Jan. 6 offenders as “hostages.”
For the convicted Jan. 6 defendants, and for the Trump faithful, the pardons were vindication for unjust persecutions by the president’s political enemies. Gavin McInnes, the British-born founder of the Proud Boys, said in an interview that he and his friends were celebrating late on Monday by “pounding bourbons and laughing our heads off.”

 

[Mycroft]

You can't read for comprehension clearly, from your post, all your other posts reflect an imaginary reality only you live in, why even respond? I'd kick your ass in a hot second back in the day, or go down tryin' (20 years ago). A few described incidents involved politics and other beefs (started over Trump, BY THEM), those are the only times I wanted to engage, it's decidedly YOUR side that starts violence, it's TRUMPERS. that's a fact. I have NEVER started anything, nor would over politics alone. Now go away please, your posts reflect very low intelligence, and have no substance, ever.

Point is, out of all of that. ONE was brave enough to shove me, and literally promptly speed off in his car. I'm not a cop caller, but had I been injured, hell yes I would have. This was a guy with a Trump flag who nearly hit me in his truck (my bicycle) and cased me down, caught me by surprise (he was at fault, was in crosswalk). Shoves me down then runs back to this truck. I don't believe most of you even have what it takes without a gun to back it up or some kind of weapon, but some do and many have weapons, many of us do too, way more than MAGA thinks.

Again I divorced violence years ago. this is NOT about that, this is your side being literal terrorists over and over, and of course you'll say 'where's the evidence', but that's just all you got, you know better.

shrug...

I simply repeated your own words.

btw, you also said this:

"This town is small, people know you on sight a lot...".​

It sounds like they do, indeed, "know you".

 

[PNW Guy]

No where did I ever say I was injured, worst was a bottle of brake fluid hurled at my rattle can painted van, that was the ONLY one I called the cops on, as there was potential damage. I have a responsibility to the community to report an ass like that. I didn't hear what he said, but it was just right in the middle of the first year of Trump 1.0, but that was the rattle can job car...

Had I not had any damage, or thought it less actual malicious act, I would not have bothered.

 

[PNW Guy]

shrug...

I simply repeated your own words.

btw, you also said this:

"This town is small, people know you on sight a lot...".​

It sounds like they do, indeed, "know you".

I know them WAY more than they me, I don't believe in political stickers, I believe in free speech, they don't. I'm not afraid (More than is reasonable) they clearly are. I don't know why you bother, your side does this, mine doesn't. Why not try and even offer evidence I'm wrong?

Much of your side plasters everything with "Ultra MAGA" stickers and such, no personality or real prospects in life, it's all they have to be proud of, I guess....

MAGA is very Lazy and extremely selfish, and usually assholes, everyone but MAGA knows that, it's why y'all can't get dates without special apps.

 

[Mycroft]

I know them WAY more than they me, I don't believe in political stickers, I believe in free speech, they don't. I'm not afraid (More than is reasonable) they clearly are. I don't know why you bother, your side does this, mine doesn't. Why not try and even offer evidence I'm wrong?

Much of your side plasters everything with "Ultra MAGA" stickers and such, no personality or real prospects in life, it's all they have to be proud of, I guess....

MAGA is very Lazy and extremely selfish, and usually assholes, everyone but MAGA knows that, it's why y'all can't get dates without special apps.

Oh...there you go...it's broad brush time again.

"your side", "y'all".

You've been here on DP long enough to know that I speak for myself. I am my own side.

Once again, I'm just repeating your own words...so don't get triggered, eh? Look at yourself.

Bye.

 

[PNW Guy]

Oh...there you go...it's broad brush time again.

"your side", "y'all".

You've been here on DP long enough to know that I speak for myself. I am my own side.

Once again, I'm just repeating your own words...so don't get triggered, eh? Look at yourself.

Bye.

Everyone does now and then, I never claimed not to, can't see why you bother posting, other than trying to bait, you have no defense, or you'd have given it. Trump supporters are statistically far more violent than anything since I've been born and it's not even close. That's YOUR side, he provokes it, you seem to love it. Doesn't mean you take part in it personally, so why take it personally? I never said DP MAGA was violent; I'd bet very few folks who talk in places like this, would ever resort to actual political violence, but they sure seem to enjoy spectating and finger pointing. I am doing that now, but because it happened in actual reality, to me, and countless documentable incidents with others...

I'm also not enjoying it, I just want the side of "personal responsibility" to show some for the first time potentially ever...

I know you won't defend it, but care to even try and explain it?

 

[PNW Guy]

You wanna know the truth of why I am triggered, well I am an open book, a self actualizing person in recovery, so I've no problem sharing...

Two of my big tough guy Trumpy friends (big dudes, friends of mine, I would NOT want to fight or vice versa as these two can handle themselves), are legit bikers who would stand a great chance in a fair fight (with anyone) and not fear it (Not all are losers), blocked my phone over a Facebook post with clickbait on the thumbnail. That's really sad and it hurts, these are people I care about and vice versa, and it legit bothers me...

BTW BOTH of those guys mentioned are also recovery people, beyond actually being violent over trivialities like this, or at least one is, and I think both. This isn't about violence only, it's about hypersensitivity.

That said I should have expected and understand the reaction, but was shocked by it, nonetheless...

I will probably see them in a week, and shit will be "fine" (to an extent) but I did not, and will not take my post down, I will filter the audience, no need to provoke little children, but it's pretty pathetic if you ask me. I don't cry to them over my political woes, I don't take their "**** you for voting for him" flags personally, but they lost me now, I can't stay too close to people like that, I don't trust it... Its sad, made it through nearly 10 years on opposite sides of it and it takes them Trump WINNING to make them all sensitive, WTF?

I'm about to take a break from the news for a bit, or at least try to, hell yeah I get triggered, so I go do other things....

The video was aimed at a particular type of Trumpers, is dead on too, but I guess maybe applies to them too? I didn't think so but apparently they did...

Thing is it does apply to them financially, but both are bigger people than that. They will get over it, I will too, but I'll never be as close to them again. I don't think either friendship ends, I know how to accept people for who they are, flaws and all, but I guess in smaller doses at further distances than in times past...

 

[PNW Guy]

To be honest I want to learn to speak better, not be as provoking as I am, and engage people (particularly ones I disagree with) in ways that make them less angry, I am working on that. Old habits die hard, but they can and do die if you try...

I also need to learn not to be surprised when I accidentally offend someone with something I damn well should have though twice about in the first place. IDK why conservatives also always act like we libs are trying to be "better than" I'm no better or worse than anyone, I'm human with flaws, I admit to, when's the last time Trump did that?

So for all your trying to trigger me further, I won't be, I want to unite more than divide, and am slowly getting better, with time and effort.

I wanna be a more effective human being, so goodnight.

 

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OP has Stage 4 TDS.

 

[PNW Guy]

Never did expect I could discuss this with Trumpers (Trump voters perhaps, not MAGAts), was looking for real people. It's not that important, just silliness, not mine though. Oh well.

 

[Utility Man]

Who would have thought........

NSFW, foul language here (learn a lesson):



......Wonder where the people who have been hoarding weapons so they could overthrow our government got that idea that violence is okay.....





......guess it could have something to do with their upbringing.

 

[PNW Guy]

Who would have thought........

NSFW, foul language here (learn a lesson):



......Wonder where the people who have been hoarding weapons so they could overthrow our government got that idea that violence is okay.....





......guess it could have something to do with their upbringing.

Oh it's pointless to "show evidence". Everyone with a brain that isn't shut off knows who is violent over politics and why. I wanna know how to we break through this sickness? That said I appreciate your posts big time, for one with an open mind, good info, but it's not helping cross the divide...

It's mostly MAGAs under the influence with alcohol and drug problems, sometimes psych problems. This clearly exists on both sides, but nobody has stoked and inspired it like Trump...

 

[PNW Guy]

If there's another Lefty, here I'd appreciate PM suggestions at modifying my tone, one guy in particular I might even reach out to. This is a pass time here, but it's also a place for ideas, I wanna get more positive out of it and less negative, so despite the trolling and baiting, I persist and am sincere...

There are righties I'd talk to too, who knows? I tend toward blue collar conservative friends, have never gotten into it physically over it, but it came way closer than it should have in the DISTANT past...

(Surprise I'm way 80s centrist)

 

[PNW Guy]

What's silly is I never voted for Biden, or anyone in 2020, I purposely abstained...

Sometimes you have to get away from it. I don't think now is the time, we have to bridge the gap and stop the assholes somehow! I've had my say, if any more comments of interest come up, I'll respond, but otherwise, have at. I don't know what more I could possibly want to say on te subject. There are some here that are never respectful, never doing anything but trying to provoke, I don't care about you, other than better ignoring y'all... Disengaging, I know how to do that, it's just will I...?

It's those that actually discuss, I wanna learn how to discuss better myself. Goodnight to all DP, even if you annoy the crap out of me! I hope it's a peaceful safe evening.

 

[Port & Starboard]

So...which is it?

This...

" I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping,"​

...or this?

"I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence"​

​

Or, is it this?​

​

"I'm VERY outspoken in real life"​

You say you are a victim of Trump supporters who want to fight, yet you admit that it's YOU who wants to fight.

Sorry, but you get no sympathy from me.

He tells the "coolest stories"

 

[Port & Starboard]

A lot of the MAGA crowd really is so dumb they think because of the January 6th pardons, they can commit crimes for Trump (video subject matter), and this fits right in with the other video, "Understanding Donald Trump supporters.".

(The subject matter. This is a real danger though!)

I personally have been victim of what I am pretty sure is MAGA violence on more occasions than I can accurately count (less than 12 more than 4, is my estimate for I'm certain MAGAs knowing I was anti MAGA was the ONLY reason). I'm VERY outspoken in real life and on Facebook, I have have three face to face encounters, all of which neither of us wanted it (I think politics is a damn stupid reason to start violence) in three others, I wanted to fight, had witnesses but just could not provoke the essential first blow to give the imaginarily (in my head) deserved ass whooping, but at least got the satisfaction of showing the real truth, in a fair fight, leftists are almost always far more courageous, and it was in front of women, so those fools got embarrassed by their own dumbassery (as did I, though at least I wasn't the wuss), but there were other more personal reasons involved though the Trump subject tripped the triggers in those.

I would say there have been at least 10-15 incidents of things thrown from cars, or cars with MAGA stickers chasing me down to complain, and every time these road incidents happen, they never actually wanna go unless armed with guns (I've tried), and/or they hurl stuff from moving vehicles and speed off like the chickenshits they are. This town is small, people know you on sight a lot...

This is a dangerous situation, these asswipes never "backed the blue" they're the criminal underworld white supremacists, cooking and selling meth and fentanyl doing the random acts of violence and believing they can, but watch out folks. Be brave as you can, but be careful.

Mind you, this goes all the way back to 2016...

I was abused as a kid, and had for years a hot temper and often started fights, much to my shame. I have gotten so much better at controlling my anger over the years and I am not one to start violence for any reason for many years unless really adrenalined out, and at times I have come close, but this isn't getting better any time soon folks...

Violence never solves anything, it's not even a good "venting release" though if you must, hit a tree with a stuck or invest in a boxer bag. It just doesn't ever help, except to save a life in defense of being a victim, I've yet to see a situation it made anything better, please choose a better path!

So, in other words, you run around shooting off your mouth a lot?

 

[Loulit01]

What's silly is I never voted for Biden, or anyone in 2020, I purposely abstained...

Sometimes you have to get away from it. I don't think now is the time, we have to bridge the gap and stop the assholes somehow! I've had my say, if any more comments of interest come up, I'll respond, but otherwise, have at. I don't know what more I could possibly want to say on te subject. There are some here that are never respectful, never doing anything but trying to provoke, I don't care about you, other than better ignoring y'all... Disengaging, I know how to do that, it's just will I...?

It's those that actually discuss, I wanna learn how to discuss better myself. Goodnight to all DP, even if you annoy the crap out of me! I hope it's a peaceful safe evening.

Good God.

Tough to recognize this country sometimes.