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If someone rose from the dead ANYTHING is possible....is it not?
Don't think I was asking you...but whatever
A God that raises folks from the dead hasn't any limitations except those "He" sets for himself
What does this have to do with gay marriage promoting the family?
God is an irresponsible single parent who has no business telling people who to marry or how to raise their kids. It should be pretty damn clear that if you send your only son to die on your behalf that you have some issues. Taking it further, assuming that every person who is alive is one of God's children, then you only need to look at the human condition of our little family here on Earth and see all the suffering we put each other through while our absent father figure hides away. God should have had CPS called on his ass eons ago for abandonment or neglect.
OK...that's fine...we were all having a wonderful secular discussion on gay marriage until pro-SSM brought religion and the bible into it.
If you don't mind, may we please leave religion out of the discussion?
What does that have to do with family?
Whats a "true" family?
While I agree that family is subjective and only the people involved can decide Im always confused why people have to invent things and use pre-fixes or add adjectives to family to try and change the question.
If you think marriage promotes family then ALL marriage does, cant separate the two without being dishonest or illogical IMO.
And if we just go by the definition of the word family, biological off-spring has nothing to do with the term at all.
To refresh your memory, you were the one who brought it into this thread when you said that you get your position on same sex marriage from scripture.
How do you leave it out of the discussion when one side's entire argument is based upon it?
I was enjoying having a secular conversation, but it seems that pro-ssm has to always drag God into everything.
Definition of family:
a.
a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not: the traditional family.
I don't necessarily believe that marriage *promotes* family. Marriage is just a legal contract in its most simplistic definition.
fam·i·ly (fm-l, fml)
n. pl. fam·i·lies
1.
a. A fundamental social group in society typically consisting of one or two parents and their children.
b. Two or more people who share goals and values, have long-term commitments to one another, and reside usually in the same dwelling place.
2. All the members of a household under one roof.
3. A group of persons sharing common ancestry. See Usage Note at collective noun.
4. Lineage, especially distinguished lineage.
Definition of family:
a.
a basic social unit consisting of parents and their children, considered as a group, whether dwelling together or not: the traditional family.
I don't necessarily believe that marriage *promotes* family. Marriage is just a legal contract in its most simplistic definition.
Yes it does. Any two people can build a loving environment to raise children. They don't have to be opposite sex. Hell they don't even have to be lover's themselves. Two brothers or two sisters could promote family. For sake of this discussion though I'll stick to homo vs hetero couples.
A number of studies have been done (including last years Cambridge study) that show there is no psychological, physical, emotional, educational, or social difference between children raised by homosexual vs heterosexual couples.
What are your "secular" arguments against same sex marriage?
In todays society it sure ain't optimal. However it is far more optimalmthan the foster system.
I feel the same about single parents as well.
Breakin it down one further a single mother is more preferable than a single father.
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