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I would never argue there are not points of coincidence down through the ages. Human nature is a constant even if "moral centers" are not. I hope you are having a good spring.:2wave:
If Iran gets the bomb then Egypt and Saudi Arabia will not be far behind. That is, if Iran does not immediately attack Israel.
SA I expect yes...Egypt eh I don't think so....I don't care if Iran attacks Israel has nothing to do with the US or me.
Such is the cold calculus of armed peace supervised by the sword of Damocles.
Iran signed the UN NPT in 1968 which regulates nuclear research, development, and application.I don't really think that any country should have or produce nuclear weapons since they are a danger to all of humanity, but as it stands at this moment I think that Iran should be able to research and produce whatever they want just like we do since we have no authority over them.
Simpleχity;1064565037 said:Iran signed the UN NPT in 1968 which regulates nuclear research, development, and application.
Moral high-ground is not a part of the equation. The world recognized the dangers of nuclear proliferation and responded in the late 60s with the NPT. It is what it is ... not perfect but much better than having nothing at all. 190 nations have signed the NPT. North Korea withdrew in 2003. India, Pakistan, Israel, and South Sudan never signed the NPT.I didn't know that, thanks. I just don't know if we truly have a moral high ground to enforce such a thing when even after we reduce our own nuclear stockpile we still have more nuclear weapons than pretty much all other countries. Keeping such a huge stockpile while telling others that they can't even have one just seems hypocritical to me. If all countries that currently have them dismantled then I think it would carry more weight but I recognize that there would always probably be that one country that saves a few.
Simpleχity;1064565037 said:Iran signed the UN NPT in 1968 which regulates nuclear research, development, and application.
Simpleχity;1064565172 said:Moral high-ground is not a part of the equation. The world recognized the dangers of nuclear proliferation and responded in the late 60s with the NPT. It is what it is ... not perfect but much better than having nothing at all. 190 nations have signed the NPT. North Korea withdrew in 2003. India, Pakistan, Israel, and South Sudan never signed the NPT.
I didn't know that, thanks. I just don't know if we truly have a moral high ground to enforce such a thing when even after we reduce our own nuclear stockpile we still have more nuclear weapons than pretty much all other countries. Keeping such a huge stockpile while telling others that they can't even have one just seems hypocritical to me. If all countries that currently have them dismantled then I think it would carry more weight but I recognize that there would always probably be that one country that saves a few.
I don't really think that any country should have or produce nuclear weapons since they are a danger to all of humanity, but as it stands at this moment I think that Iran should be able to research and produce whatever they want just like we do since we have no authority over them.
Oh yes we do. And the US spends eight times more cash on the military than its nearest competitor to maintain that uni-polar advantage. Iran is absolutely no military match for the US, and as such we exercise every authority over them that we wish.
ok but who is the real threat then? If power corrupts then as we get more and more powerful will we be able to truly claim the moral high ground?
That's a foolish view, but I won't try to explain. Fact is Israel would not go down alone. Much damage in many places.
No, with more and more power, you can truly claim that might is equal to right. Governments don't act morally. They advance their interests. Don't think for one minute that any USFP has morality at its foundation, nor any other country.
Are you saying that it should stay that way? Sorry, i'm just trying to follow.
Either way I don't care. Israel is a terrorist state and should be treated as such. They are a parasitic people leeching on the rest of the world.
While your Israeli point has some merit, why would you not care if they were to be nuked? We should never want anybody to be nuked, we saw the effects of nuclear weapons on the innocent some time ago, and it wasn't very pretty. The lot of Israeli citizens shouldn't suffer for the comparative few that direct the countries foreign policy.
The entire Jewish race is a problem. That's why.A problem much like a rodent problem. Only way to cure the problem is to destroy the rodent.
The entire Jewish race is a problem. That's why.A problem much like a rodent problem. Only way to cure the problem is to destroy the rodent.
How long have you felt this way?
How long have you felt this way?
The entire Jewish race is a problem. That's why.A problem much like a rodent problem. Only way to cure the problem is to destroy the rodent.
First off, Jewish isn't a race. Second, are you advocating the extinction of an entire people of a certain faith?
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