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Actually, the narrator appears to have fallen off the ex-jock turned sports narrator turnip truck and landed in politics.Listen to this entire video and then ask yourself, "Does Dick Cheney believe our government should follow the U.S. Constitution?"
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Actually, the narrator appears to have fallen off the ex-jock turned sports narrator turnip truck and landed in politics.
Cheney requested, propositioned, and specifically addressed contexts of the war powers act. - /wiki/War_Powers_Resolution#Questions_regarding_constitutionalityAnd just what exactly does that have to do with what Cheney said? :doh
"CHENEY The congress clearly has the ability to write statutes and has certain constitutional authorities granted in the constitution.
CHENEY I would argue that they do not have the right by statute to alter presidential constitutional power.
In other words, you cannot override his constitutional authority and responsibilities.
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They have, for example, passed the War Powers Act.
The War Powers Act is still in force today, it requires certain notifications to the congress and give them the authority to supercede those by a vote if they want to when it comes to committing troops.
No president has ever signed off on the proposition that the War Powers Act is constitutional.
I would argue that it is in fact a violation of the constitution that it is an infringement upon the presidents authority as a commander in chief.
Its never been resolved, but I think it is a very good example of the way in which the congress has tried to limit the president's authority and frankly can't."
/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution -
There is also an unresolved legal question, discussed by Justice White in INS v. Chadha of whether a "key provision of the War Powers Resolution", namely 50 U.S.C. 1544(c), constitutes an improper legislative veto. (See Chahda, 462 U.S. 919, 971). That section 1544(c) states "such forces shall be removed by the President if the Congress so directs by concurrent resolution". Justice White argues in his dissent in Chadha that, under the Chadha ruling, 1544(c) would be a violation of the Presentment Clause. The majority in Chadha does not resolve the issue. Justice White does not address or evaluate in his dissent whether that section would fall within the inherent Congressional authority under Article I Section 8 to "make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces."
Dick Cheney Says The Powers Of The President Are Unlimited
Is this fool not the most dangerous VP, or man, in the world? With this neo-con, right winger whispering in dumbo's ear, is it any wonder why Bush has taken the illegal, anti-American, treasonist actions that will guarantee he goes down in history as the Worst President In History?
Listen to this entire video and then ask yourself,
"Does Dick Cheney believe our government should follow the U.S. Constitution?"
If the above transcription is accurate regarding what Cheney said, what the hell is the problem?
All he's saying is what any responsible reader of the Constitution would conclude...that a legislative statute does not trump constitutional authority.
I see ignorant and irresponsible posters like ADK want to equate that to an argument of unlimited Executive authority, but that's his ignorance clouding his judgment.
Obviously, Dick Cheney hates the constitution, and must be killed for his beliefs!
If the above transcription is accurate regarding what Cheney said, what the hell is the problem?
All he's saying is what any responsible reader of the Constitution would conclude...that a legislative statute does not trump constitutional authority.
I see ignorant and irresponsible posters like ADK want to equate that to an argument of unlimited Executive authority, but that's his ignorance clouding his judgment.
Of course mere legislative statutes cannot trump constitutional provisions. That would destroy the adversarial nature of the three branches of government that the Framers designed. If Congress were permitted to minimize or otherwise repeal authority granted by the Constitution to either the Executive or Judicial branches then the three branches would no longer be co-equal branches. Congress would, by its own hand, have elevated itself to a superior position among the three branches.
Seriously, ADK, where do you see Cheney arguing for unlimited constitutional authority? He simply is not. He's properly arguing that as a co-equal branch, Congree may not rescind or otherwise alter the constitutional authority granted to the Executive branch.
What is your problem with that?
Are you referring to those many, many, "signing statements?"Cheney and Bush overstepped their authority, for sure - Especially with executive orders that seek to change laws. That is the jurisdiction of the Legislative Branch.
Are you referring to those many, many, "signing statements?"
Correct. Bush does not have the authority to make many of them either. His job is to ENFORCE the laws Congress passes.
What no torturing? :mrgreen:
I cannot wait for January 20, 2009 to come. Cheney can go to hell (even though I don't believe hell exists).
What the hell are you talking about? We haven't had one the last 8 years!I wonder if you'll admit that you miss having a competent President and VP in 2 years...
Cheney has actively promoted an expansion of the powers of the presidency, saying that the Bush administration’s challenges to the laws which Congress passed after Vietnam and Watergate to contain and oversee the executive branch—the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Presidential Records Act, the Freedom of Information Act and the War Powers Resolution—are, in Cheney's words, “a restoration, if you will, of the power and authority of the president.”[96][97]
Thank God the incoming Vice-President completely disagrees with that position.
YouTube - Dick Cheney Says The Powers Of The President Are Unlimited
Is this fool not the most dangerous VP, or man, in the world? With this neo-con, right winger whispering in dumbo's ear, is it any wonder why Bush has taken the illegal, anti-American, treasonist actions that will guarantee he goes down in history as the Worst President In History?
Listen to this entire video and then ask yourself,
"Does Dick Cheney believe our government should follow the U.S. Constitution?"
I think it's a mistake to think that Bush is innocent with someone whispering in his ear. No doubt Cheney is evil, and profiting from war. But then so is Bush. So did daddy Bush in the first Iraq war. So did Bush's grandpa, Prescott Bush before him when he made money from WWII and was a part of the financial architects of Nazism, since he was a director of the firm involved.
Ever notice how the financial collapse we are facing now how mimicked the great depression? Think Wilson. Then think of this Bush administration. Think about how Hitler did away with the rights of the people by staging a terrorist act, and then think of the Bush administration and the patriot act after a terrorist act.
Think about the "North American Union" legislation Bush signed without a single vote, the development of the "Amero" to replace all the currency in North America (Canada, The US, and Mexico). Think of the four divisions of world power - Asian states, North America, Arab, Euro...
How easy it would be to form a New World Order - A One World Government - when only four players in the game? How, with that "NWU" it would be easier to make the Constitution go away, since it does not apply to a single North American Union, because it is written just for the United States. The very Constitution the clueless Republicans think the Democrats want to destroy. Now go back to thinking about Prescott Bush and his ties to his grandson, George W. Bush. Think of Prescott Bush's ties with Rockefeller and the Morgans and so on and on...
No, I don't think they're fools.
I wonder if you'll admit that you miss having a competent President and VP in 2 years...
Cheney and Bush overstepped their authority, for sure - Especially with executive orders that seek to change laws. That is the jurisdiction of the Legislative Branch.
The last time we had a competent president and VP was in 2000.
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