The Giant Noodle
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Unless tariffs are universal and solely for tax collection purposes they are stupid.
We shouldn't be protecting wasteful American jobs that require very minimal understanding to do.
Manufacturing hasn't been leaving the states, it isn't growing as much because of work place efficiency, machinery and automation/robotics.
I've witnessed this first hand.
The Giant Noodle said:Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
The Giant Noodle said:Christ! What if efficiency and effectiveness was a PRIORITY in the US????
Plus..... American companies were forced to use... *GASP* American workers?
(plus imports were Tariffed..... thus the US govt could get that $$$)
Where is the manufacturing? Not here in the US. Why do you buy the less expensive products made overseas? Probably because they are less expensive.
What about outsourcing jobs to India? To other countries?
Why do companies do that? Labor is less expensive!
Companies go where labor is cheap! We go to where products are cheap!
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Now, will US made products ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
Will US labor ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
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Will the US survive with companies outsourcing jobs?
Will the US survive with imports that are half the price as ours?
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Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
Let's start replacing foreign workers with robots. Then it won't matter where your manufacturing business resides.
I don't think we need tariffs, but we should pass laws that businesses should comply with US regulations in their outside of country facilities for things like health, safety, and environment if those goods are made the the US market. (unless the host country's regulations are more strict)
We get more value out of the WTO than we lose to outsourcing. Free trade is an overall net positive, even if it sometimes hurts individual sectors. A lot of out sourcing isn't actually even cost effective, but is simply the result of our idiotic fantasy land MBA driven cost cutting business culture.
That would chase those companies out of the U.S. where they don't have to comply.
I think we should come to the realization that not everyone has to live by our standards to be happy and productive.
Unless tariffs are universal and solely for tax collection purposes they are stupid.
We shouldn't be protecting wasteful American jobs that require very minimal understanding to do.
Manufacturing hasn't been leaving the states, it isn't growing as much because of work place efficiency, machinery and automation/robotics.
I've witnessed this first hand.
So you think they would abandon selling in the US?
the problem with that is we need to have those types of jobs here in the u.s. as well.
Banning the sale of those products in the U.S. would be quite destructive.
I think the vast majority of manufacturors would find a way to comply as they would not want to lose their livelihood.
Banning the sale of those products in the U.S. would be quite destructive.
Not really, the problem we are having now is we have a glut of brain power and not enough jobs.
This recession affected people who mostly have degrees and less so for blue collar workers.
Yes and no, the comparative advantage would be lost in meeting those requirements.
Even if they were to bring those jobs to the U.S. it would be a waste.
Having people with bachelors degrees, making tooth brushes, isn't exactly ideal.
The shift has occurred because other countries have less brain power and more labor power.
We all seem to look at these things through American eyes, that the little 12 year old girl working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week is being abused.
Before she would of had no access to money, to buy food and later when she has children, maybe they won't have to work to help support the family.
It's slow progression but the rest of the world can't all live by American standards at the same time.
Tariffs, subsidies and import regulations do more harm to the people, you were intending to help.
it has? i think it's affected everyone. white, blue and pink.
Degree holders have a higher incidence of unemployment than non degree holders.
Yes everyone has lost jobs though.
personally, i don't care all that much about the people in other countries when my fellow americans don't have jobs. tariffs on imported vehicles makes sense, our vehicles are taxed to the max in foreign countries. good for the goose. any countru that imposes tariffs on o0ur goods needs the same imposed on their goods.
not by much, though.
Tarriffs are not put on corporations, they are put on counties. I believe to punish a corporation would be a "Bill of attainder" (Article I Section 9) and thus would be unconstitutional.Where is the manufacturing? Not here in the US. Why do you buy the less expensive products made overseas? Probably because they are less expensive.
What about outsourcing jobs to India? To other countries?
Why do companies do that? Labor is less expensive!
Companies go where labor is cheap! We go to where products are cheap!
------
Now, will US made products ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
Will US labor ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
------
Will the US survive with companies outsourcing jobs?
Will the US survive with imports that are half the price as ours?
------
Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
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