People just throw the word racist around too much. I mean it wasn't too long ago that people were claiming a GAP commercial was racist. And even some were claiming that certain Halloween costumes are racist.I listen to a variety of music, and I recently noticed a lot of people are offended by this song/video and saying it's RACIST... :doh .... The song and lyrics has caused some interesting conversations about skin tone and beauty, and even culture.
The song is from India. The singer is really attracted to a woman, but it's different for him because she is a dark/dusky Indian girl. He sings that he usually likes white girls, but she is so beautiful he doesn't like them anymore. Dark skinned women in India really like the song. They say the love the song, it makes them proud, and it is well known that Indian women feel pressure to lighten their skin tone.
But the song is also upsetting people by the fact that he says, "white chicks, I don't like them anymore." They say the entire song is "racially divisive," a white man could never sing that he doesn't like dark women, etc. etc.
Personally, I don't see where all the anger is coming from, and I think this relates to the Lil Kim, skin whitening story.
What are your thoughts and opinions? Is the video racist? Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
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I listen to a variety of music, and I recently noticed a lot of people are offended by this song/video and saying it's RACIST... :doh .... The song and lyrics has caused some interesting conversations about skin tone and beauty, and even culture.
The song is from India. The singer is really attracted to a woman, but it's different for him because she is a dark/dusky Indian girl. He sings that he usually likes white girls, but she is so beautiful he doesn't like them anymore. Dark skinned women in India really like the song. They say the love the song, it makes them proud, and it is well known that Indian women feel pressure to lighten their skin tone.
But the song is also upsetting people by the fact that he says, "white chicks, I don't like them anymore." They say the entire song is "racially divisive," a white man could never sing that he doesn't like dark women, etc. etc.
Personally, I don't see where all the anger is coming from, and I think this relates to the Lil Kim, skin whitening story.
What are your thoughts and opinions? Is the video racist? Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
I listen to a variety of music, and I recently noticed a lot of people are offended by this song/video and saying it's RACIST... :doh .... The song and lyrics has caused some interesting conversations about skin tone and beauty, and even culture.
The song is from India. The singer is really attracted to a woman, but it's different for him because she is a dark/dusky Indian girl. He sings that he usually likes white girls, but she is so beautiful he doesn't like them anymore. Dark skinned women in India really like the song. They say the love the song, it makes them proud, and it is well known that Indian women feel pressure to lighten their skin tone.
But the song is also upsetting people by the fact that he says, "white chicks, I don't like them anymore." They say the entire song is "racially divisive," a white man could never sing that he doesn't like dark women, etc. etc.
Personally, I don't see where all the anger is coming from, and I think this relates to the Lil Kim, skin whitening story.
What are your thoughts and opinions? Is the video racist? Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
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Hmmmm..
A man sings of his love for a brown skinned woman, and it's racist. But a hair color commercial is not.
You know, it just might have something to do with the fact an Arab-looking guy says "White chicks, I don't like them anymore."
I wonder why it's thought to be racism, as the video objectifies women and bases like and dislike on the color of the wrapping paper.
Sexism it is, Yoda says
The funny thing is, it reminded me of the song Gold Digger. Kayne sang, "he gonna leave yo ass for a white girl." A black rapper singing that didn't cause a bunch of controversy that I am aware of. If somebody says he is going to go for a white girl, it seems like nobody complains. I am starting to believe the default position is that they all want white girls, so it's OK to say they want white girls. This brown guy says he doesn't like them anymore, and people get offended, meanwhile darker skinned women are putting lighteners on.
As a female, I have noticed men of particular racial groups think they need to protect their women from other racial groups. In America, it's the most obvious between white women and black men. White women who have been with black men get called slurs like "mud sharks," and certain white guys look at the like they are polluted. I have never been able to understand or relate to those feelings... maybe it's because I am a female... :shrug:
I listen to a variety of music, and I recently noticed a lot of people are offended by this song/video and saying it's RACIST... :doh .... The song and lyrics has caused some interesting conversations about skin tone and beauty, and even culture.
The song is from India. The singer is really attracted to a woman, but it's different for him because she is a dark/dusky Indian girl. He sings that he usually likes white girls, but she is so beautiful he doesn't like them anymore. Dark skinned women in India really like the song. They say the love the song, it makes them proud, and it is well known that Indian women feel pressure to lighten their skin tone.
But the song is also upsetting people by the fact that he says, "white chicks, I don't like them anymore." They say the entire song is "racially divisive," a white man could never sing that he doesn't like dark women, etc. etc.
Personally, I don't see where all the anger is coming from, and I think this relates to the Lil Kim, skin whitening story.
What are your thoughts and opinions? Is the video racist? Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
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The video and the OP's topic reminded me of 2 things.
1: It reminded me of a video I saw earlier today where a woman from El Salvador was talking about things that she found unique to American culture. Her #1 pick was political correctness and how people get upset about the littlest things where as where she came from nicknames were actually given to people based on their skin color, weight, height etc etc and it was thought of as a term of endearment and not as something bigoted or racist.
2: I found it interesting that certain words were said in English even though the flow of the rest of the phrase was said in, I'm guessing, Indian. Is it done because there is no similar word in Indian? Or is it done because it just sound cooler? For example is the word "kiss" the same in both languages or is it different but they wanted to use the English version for the difference in sound effect. I've actually seen this kind of thing in a few different video's also and that's part of the reason that I bring it up.
As for whether its racist or not, :shrug: I don't think so. Every person on this planet has their preferences as far as compatibility goes and imo 99.99% of people don't even know it until they find The One. Though they may think that they do.
I listen to a variety of music, and I recently noticed a lot of people are offended by this song/video and saying it's RACIST... :doh .... The song and lyrics has caused some interesting conversations about skin tone and beauty, and even culture.
The song is from India. The singer is really attracted to a woman, but it's different for him because she is a dark/dusky Indian girl. He sings that he usually likes white girls, but she is so beautiful he doesn't like them anymore. Dark skinned women in India really like the song. They say the love the song, it makes them proud, and it is well known that Indian women feel pressure to lighten their skin tone.
But the song is also upsetting people by the fact that he says, "white chicks, I don't like them anymore." They say the entire song is "racially divisive," a white man could never sing that he doesn't like dark women, etc. etc.
Personally, I don't see where all the anger is coming from, and I think this relates to the Lil Kim, skin whitening story.
What are your thoughts and opinions? Is the video racist? Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
(video has translation)
Does anybody have any cultural insight as to white skin in India?
The video and the OP's topic reminded me of 2 things.
1: It reminded me of a video I saw earlier today where a woman from El Salvador was talking about things that she found unique to American culture. Her #1 pick was political correctness and how people get upset about the littlest things where as where she came from nicknames were actually given to people based on their skin color, weight, height etc etc and it was thought of as a term of endearment and not as something bigoted or racist.
2: I found it interesting that certain words were said in English even though the flow of the rest of the phrase was said in, I'm guessing, Indian. Is it done because there is no similar word in Indian? Or is it done because it just sound cooler? For example is the word "kiss" the same in both languages or is it different but they wanted to use the English version for the difference in sound effect. I've actually seen this kind of thing in a few different video's also and that's part of the reason that I bring it up.
As for whether its racist or not, :shrug: I don't think so. Every person on this planet has their preferences as far as compatibility goes and imo 99.99% of people don't even know it until they find The One. Though they may think that they do.
It is a form of racism in itself not to acknowledge a racial difference.
I suppose things are much different here, as mixed couples are really quite common. Interracial dating has always been a hot potato, when I first went to Montreal I dated a very Jewish girl, who I found out was dating me because I am Goy, and as a sort of prestige in her group.
I do, though, know that my late wife, who was Chinese, and I often got a chilly if not hostile reception in the US, outside of Hawaii. Border agents were particularly rude, and there was one my wife wanted to skin alive. I don't know if his being black was at its roots, but we encountered the same guy several times when we were socializing in Belingham.
Perhaps the phobia is an ancient instinct from when we lived in caves, but it seems silly actually. But then I have never understood racism anyway. I just don't get it; the way I figure the more we interact, eventually we will all be pretty much one race with variations on skin color as that's what we are anyway
Based on your description, I'd say not. Racism is predicated on the superiority of one race over another, or all others. What this is about is an esthetic preference.
Not racist.
Well, there was a historical tendency to view a lighter skin color as more beautiful or more symbolic of nobility, even if it had no direct relation to the caste system (Hindu). Heroic fictional figures were generally described as lighter skinned.
The Brits also pushed the idea that whiter is better for quite some time.
I don't understand racism either. I am casual friends with a few prejudice/racist people. It's a pervasive part of how they view the world, so I am constantly reminded that they have that attitude even when I avoid talking about race itself. Listening to them has made me realize a few things about being prejudice and racist. It requires overlooking a lot of inconsistencies in human behavior. They make broad declarations about black people, mexican people, etc. Then I typically say, what about Jennifer and Tommy... they aren't like that... but that's because they are exceptional. They aren't like the rest of them. It's so funny sometimes, and other times it can be disturbing. People like that don't hear themselves.
I stopped having "friends" like that 20 years ago partly because I no longer have any tolerance for it, and because my wife was Chinese Canadian.
I don't have time to listen to prejudice, I am 67 and heard it all. It's boring.
2: I found it interesting that certain words were said in English even though the flow of the rest of the phrase was said in, I'm guessing, Indian. Is it done because there is no similar word in Indian? Or is it done because it just sound cooler? For example is the word "kiss" the same in both languages or is it different but they wanted to use the English version for the difference in sound effect. I've actually seen this kind of thing in a few different video's also and that's part of the reason that I bring it up.
I may eventually stop being friends with them too. My husband and I can see some signs of their judgement creeping into their perception of us. One recent event is that I want to travel with my husband through the middle east and west Asia. He constantly goes to the east for his job, and we have a lot of friends from India right now. He also frequents Dubai and Islamabad. A friend of ours keeps telling me not to travel, and she talks like I am going to be sitting on the ground in a cave all day surrounded by terrorists while my husband will be trotting around an AK47. She thinks I am nuts. My husband says he wouldn't take me anywhere unsafe, and he knows what regions are safe. The cities he goes to are world class cities, but she doesn't listen. She talks like she knows more than him :lol: and he has spent most of his life traveling that region.
Before she met my husband she warned me that she saw a movie about a man took his wife to Iran, chained her to the stove and constantly beat her until she escaped... something like that. I think she should know my husband wouldn't do that to me, because she knows him now. I don't understand her concern for me at this point. She isn't an idiot, and her cousin actually works in Dubai. I think she should know what kind of cities we will be going to, right? I don't understand her attitude.
Most if not all racists are also gossips. Their too stupid to read a newspaper so their world view is established through the gossip of their peers. They see a dark skinned person and immediately make assumptions. I close friend of mine, I guy a trust with my life is a Sikh, Indian with turban, dagger, the whole package. People cannot make the distinction between a Sikh turban and the head wear of terrorists. He no longer takes his engineering expertise to the US.
That reminds me of this crazy guy who shot a "Muslims terrorist" shortly after 9/11 at a gas station because he was wearing a turban. But it turned out it was actually a Sikh turban.
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