The last thing this country needs is our teaching populace being held to higher standards.
In other countries being a teachers are held to a higher standard. People aspire to be teachers, not just fall back on it when all else fails. Thats what we need here
So basically, avoid Mexico at all costs. Drugs, cartels, government corruption, and bad schools
I can't comment on the schools, but I just enjoyed a very nice vacation in the San Miguel De Allende region, one of several areas where many older USA citizens now live. The locals are very nice, mellow people, and the crime rate was relatively low. (people didn't always lock their bikes in public places) Not all of Mexico is the same.
The last thing this country needs is our teaching populace being held to higher standards.
i'd disagree. No young people aspire to be a teacher. they do it because its a sure job and a source of income. They have no true passion for teaching.Despite what you may have heard, that's what we have here.
Let's put things into perspective here.
A new college grad who decides to opt for a teaching career has at least a year more of school ahead before even applying. Should he/she make the investment, including a student teaching semester in which no other job is possible (no time), and add another ten or twenty grand to the student loan debt, then he/she may apply to a school, along with a hundred or so other applicants. Should he/she be hired, then it's time to discover just how a lot of kids have been raised. It's a matter of sink or swim in most schools, and many sink, quit teaching, go to something else. Some get jobs in small schools where their policy is to keep teachers two years, then let them go to hire cheaper new grads. Some get jobs in charter schools where they are at will employees, and where the school may or may not be in business next year.
I started a teaching career in 1966, when there was a severe shortage of teachers and you could actually work on a credential while teaching and getting a paycheck. I stayed with it until 2001, when I was able to retire with a good pension (yes, there are financial perks to teaching, and retirement is one of them).
No way would I invest the money to get a teaching credential today. Schools are run by the state now, the curriculum is test centered, and the kids could care less about the test. Nevertheless, the mindless bureaucrats in charge (MBIC) have issued the edict that every child will pass the test whether they want to or not, whether they have an IQ of 80 or 120, whether or not they just got to the US from a nation where English is not spoken and kids don't go to school, it doesn't matter, according to the MBIC, every child has to pass a difficult multiple guess test, or the teacher has failed.
I can look back on a rewarding career, but would not want to be in the trenches fighting the MBIC and the economic realities of today, no thank you, not even in a community where the gangs are not yet in charge.
i'd disagree. No young people aspire to be a teacher. they do it because its a sure job and a source of income. They have no true passion for teaching.
im not talking about standardization, im talking about actually making their job worth while. You can almost make more on welfare in some places than you get from working as a teacher.
i'd disagree. No young people aspire to be a teacher. they do it because its a sure job and a source of income. They have no true passion for teaching.
If I thought that was true, then I'd argue for higher wages.
As long as a teacher makes more than 30K, I don't see a need for an adjustment.
Depends on where you live. 35K in CA would see you living on the streets.
Fair enough. Maybe I should've described it as a percentage above minimal standard of living.
I didn't go through all 29 pages of this thread, but I'd be interest in comments from posters like Josie, who's a teacher. Does Josie feel she'd be a better teacher if she was paid more? If so, why?
I was making almost 60K and with a wife and two babies it wasn't enough. I had to work 4 nights a week in a fine dining extablishment on top of a full time teaching load.
Well, the days of the single income household are gone, barring a truly great job. You'd have to be a doctor or lawyer to do well with one job and a wife that didn't work, along with kids.
Agreed. And that sucks... the Keeping Up With the Joneses has ruined it for people that want a single family income lifestyle.
I'm personally disappointed with how much our educators make. IMO, they should be starting at around 100K salaries, with the due education, of course.
I'm just thankful I got rid of my ex-girlfriend that literally had to upgrade her phone every few months because "this one has *enter random stupid upgrade here*".
I should have gotten rid of mine before I knocked her up! But I did get over ten years of torment and abuse! Well, and my two beautiful daughters.
I would feel as if my education level would finally be respected and I wouldn't be just "getting by" anymore. High school teaching isn't just the whiteboard. I have literally helped to save teenagers lives. Talked them out of depression glooms, helped them see what life is really about, helped turn potential and actual gnag bangers around, etc. Psychologists make hundreds and hour doing less than I do. Lawyers makes 300+ an hour losing cases. Doctors make a ton taking your temp and handing you an anti-biotic like a robot.
Here are my thoughts on this subject --
I've known veteran teachers making $70,000+ and doing jack squat. I've also known teachers making that much who work their asses off. The flip side is true too. I've known teachers making $30,000 and they're HORRIBLE teachers....then again, some are EXCELLENT teachers. Quality of teachers has little to do with pay and more to do with their work ethic. Some teachers have become so complacent and lazy in their near-retirement years. Some never have lost the joy of teaching. If we paid every teacher $100,000, the same lazy-ass teachers would still be lazy asses. The same hard-working, heart completely into it teachers wouldn't change either.
And one more thing --- the #1 problem with education BY FAR is the parents and home lives of these children.
It's amazing that you did. Usually a man can't get custody of his kids in a divorce unless he can prove that his ex-wife helped plan 9/11 or shot Kennedy.
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