Do you think the U.S. constitution should be re-written?

Justin Jared · Oct 25, 2020

The U.S. constitution was written over 200 years ago and has been last amended in 1992. It has been changed and amended many times throughout history, and is constantly referenced and misinterpreted or interpreted for legal proceedings and searches for precedence and how certain legal matters should be handled or executed.

With that being said, should the constitution be entirely re-written or regularly re-written to make it match the current times in America and how the United States would write a constitution today if they could?

With modern day language, and references to current references that are only in existence fore the last couple of years? Be updated regularly due to the age of the original one? Be more detailed to cure inaccuracies, and lacks of detail from the original one when looking at it for answers for current day issues it doesn't answer directly? It should to be honest, as I think a regular updated one could cure a lot of issues that arise during it's review during the times mentioned when necessary.

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Yes, despite what conservatives pretend to believe, the constitution was not delivered by Jesus in the 18th century to be a perfect document that should be left unchanged until the end of time. Hell, we've changed it about 30 times now. There are lots of improvements we could be making to update our system with more modern political science concepts.

The most important of which in my opinion is to get rid of the two-party system and make it so that like most of the world there are multiple parties that have to fight each other for votes. Parties die out, and new parties are created. We don't have that. No matter how unpopular the democrats and republicans are, they'll still maintain 100% of the power in our current system.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

No, that is what the amendment process is for

The guys(Most) who put their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor on the line approved of it

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, despite what conservatives pretend to believe, the constitution was not delivered by Jesus in the 18th century to be a perfect document that should be left unchanged until the end of time. Hell, we've changed it about 30 times now. There are lots of improvements we could be making to update our system with more modern political science concepts.

The most important of which in my opinion is to get rid of the two-party system and make it so that like most of the world there are multiple parties that have to fight each other for votes. Parties die out, and new parties are created. We don't have that. No matter how unpopular the democrats and republicans are, they'll still maintain 100% of the power in our current system.

The most important of which in my opinion is to get rid of the two-party system

Agree

and make it so that like most of the world there are multiple parties

Disagree... No parties!

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
Agree
Disagree... No parties!

Can you point to one political system on earth where that's the case and it actually works? America isn't an experiment for you to test out all of your whacky ideas.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Can you point to one political system on earth where that's the case and it actually works? America isn't an experiment for you to test out all of your whacky ideas.

First, America isn't the world

Second, Washington warned of parties period

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
First, America isn't the world
Second, Washington warned of parties period

America isn't the world? No shit. There are however dozens and dozens of political systems in the world, and you're asking us to adopt a system you just created out of thin air and can't show is actually a functional good idea. Always with the fantasy unicorn shit from you guys, never with anything functional in reality.

If it weren't a dumbass idea you'd be able to show ONE example of it actually working somewhere.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
America isn't the world? No shit. There are however dozens and dozens of political systems in the world, and you're asking us to adopt a system you just created out of thin air and can't show is actually a functional good idea. Always with the fantasy unicorn shit from you guys, never with anything functional in reality.

If it weren't a dumbass idea you'd be able to show ONE example of it actually working somewhere.

America isn't the world? No shit.

Well, ya know you said this: Can you point to one political system on earth where that's the case and it actually works

There are however dozens and dozens of political systems in the world,

Click to expand...

Yes, see my "America isn't the world" point

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
Well, ya know you said this: Can you point to one political system on earth where that's the case and it actually works
Yes, see my "America isn't the world" point

So you expect us to adopt a wacky and radical idea you just made up, but can't show one example in the world of it actually working and refuse to make the case as to why we should do that. Hard pass, you've convinced no one.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
So you expect us to adopt a wacky and radical idea you just made up, but can't show one example in the world of it actually working and refuse to make the case as to why we should do that. Hard pass, you've convinced no one.

So you expect us to adopt a wacky and radical idea you just made up,

I got news for you, Americanism is a radical Idea(wink)

but can't show one example in the world

One more time. America is NOT the rest of the world(Sweat pouring off my brow)

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
I got news for you, Americanism is a radical Idea(wink)
One more time. America is NOT the rest of the world(Sweat pouring off my brow)

Claiming America isn't the rest of the world, that America somehow has special laws of reality that prevent what works in other countries from working here, doesn't convince anyone your dumbass idea makes sense. Try again, you're not even trying to convince anyone.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Claiming America isn't the rest of the world, that America somehow has special laws of reality that prevent what works in other countries from working here, doesn't convince anyone your dumbass idea makes sense. Try again, you're not even trying to convince anyone.

Okay, you just keep believing in America is "The rest of the world"

I will not!

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
Okay, you just keep believing in America is "The rest of the world"
I will not!

I didn't say it was the rest of the world, I said you pulled some nonsensical idea out of your ass and you don't have any examples of it working anywhere at any point in history in any country. It's like if you claimed our healthcare system should be a complicated system of "IOUs" tallied by orangutans, I would ask you to show an example of that kind of system working.

Your repeated failure to defend your own dumbass idea is noted.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
I didn't say it was the rest of the world, I said you pulled some nonsensical idea out of your ass and you don't have any examples of it working anywhere at any point in history in any country. It's like if you claimed our healthcare system should be a complicated system of "IOUs" tallied by orangutans, I would ask you to show an example of that kind of system working.

Your repeated failure to defend your own dumbass idea is noted.

I didn't say it was the rest of the world,

Uh.... you kinda did

anywhere at any point in history in any country

*SIGH*

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
Uh.... you kinda did*SIGH*

The same rules of physics, human nature, and reality apply everywhere. That does not mean the US "is the rest of the world".

Can you point to one example at any point in history, in any country anywhere, where political parties were banned and that worked? Communist China perhaps? Why should we adopt something you just made up when you're not even willing to defend it? Are your ideas that weak? Make your case.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
The same rules of physics, human nature, and reality apply everywhere. That does not mean the US "is the rest of the world".

Can you point to one example at any point in history, in any country anywhere, where political parties were banned and that worked? Communist China perhaps? Why should we adopt something you just made up when you're not even willing to defend it? Are your ideas that weak? Make your case.

The same rules of physics, human nature, and reality apply everywhere. That does not mean the US "is the rest of the world".

When will you ever get you're comparing America to the Rest of the world?

When you learn that, we will continue our conversation?

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
When will you ever get you're comparing American to the Rest of the world?

When you learn that, we will continue our conversation?

Getting Trump cultists to defend their own stupid statements is like pulling teeth. You can't show an example of your idea working anywhere and you refuse to explain or defend it. America not being the rest of the world magically makes your idea less stupid and more realistic?

How many people did you think you would convince going about it this way? Why should we be like Iran and North Korea and ban political parties? Make your case.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
The same rules of physics, human nature, and reality apply everywhere. That does not mean the US "is the rest of the world".

Can you point to one example at any point in history, in any country anywhere, where political parties were banned and that worked? Communist China perhaps? Why should we adopt something you just made up when you're not even willing to defend it? Are your ideas that weak? Make your case.

Why should we adopt something you just made up

Psst....
Father of our country warned us(wink)

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Getting Trump cultists to defend their own stupid statements is like pulling teeth. You can't show an example of your idea working anywhere and you refuse to explain or defend it. America not being the rest of the world magically makes your idea less stupid and more realistic?

How many people did you think you would convince going about it this way? Why should we be like Iran and North Korea and ban political parties? Make your case.

You can't show an example of your idea working anywhere

Some guys are slow.... learners(LOL)

Why should we be like Iran and North Korea

OMG!

More of the world!(LOL)

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
Some guys are slow.... learners(LOL
OMG!
More of the world!(LOL)

Sorry fascist, America won't be banning political parties like North Korea, China and Iran. America is AMERICA. Love it or leave it. Perhaps you'd be more happy in one of those countries.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Sorry fascist, America won't be banning political parties like North Korea, China and Iran. America is AMERICA. Love it or leave it. Perhaps you'd be more happy in one of those countries.

America won't be banning political parties like North Korea, China and Iran

There ya go again!(LOL)

RabidAlpaca · Oct 25, 2020

Luther said:
There ya go again!(LOL)

America is America, not Iran and North Korea. If you want to ban political parties like they did, you're going to have to use your words to explain and defend it. Until then, hard pass, fascist.

Port & Starboard · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, despite what conservatives pretend to believe, the constitution was not delivered by Jesus in the 18th century to be a perfect document that should be left unchanged until the end of time. Hell, we've changed it about 30 times now. There are lots of improvements we could be making to update our system with more modern political science concepts.

The most important of which in my opinion is to get rid of the two-party system and make it so that like most of the world there are multiple parties that have to fight each other for votes. Parties die out, and new parties are created. We don't have that. No matter how unpopular the democrats and republicans are, they'll still maintain 100% of the power in our current system.

America is not a 2 party system.

The Democrats and Republicans only happen to be the major parties.

You can create your own party tomorrow.

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RabidAlpaca said:
America is America, not Iran and North Korea. If you want to ban political parties like they did, you're going to have to use your words to explain and defend it. Until then, hard pass, fascist.

America is America

You're finally on the path to the right direction

Luther · Oct 25, 2020

RetiredUSN said:
America is not a 2 party system.

The Democrats and Republicans only happen to be the major parties.

You can create your own party tomorrow.

You can create your own party tomorrow.

Which is VAIN

So yes, America is a two party system. Even independent voters have two choices

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