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Do you generally approve or disapprove of how police handled the historic No Kings protests?

Do you generally approve or disapprove of how police handled the historic No Kings protests?

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Buster Keaton said:
The protesters look like they were mainly middle aged white far lefters.
The other part were racist Latino Nationalists who refuse to accept that we have the right to control or borders and immigration.
I saw very few Black protesters.
BTW, these protests are backfiring on the Democrats.
Trump's poll numbers went up and Newsome"s went down.
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Hi Buster,

Nope. His poll numbers on immigration went up significantly indeed. However, His overall rating is still extremely low.

And when Harry Enten claims that specific polls show the the same thing, he is only narrowing down location. But no questions about approach are asked which is a flaw in the poll.

In addition, the poll is outdated because it was published after the LA events. Not arguing thepoll. Just the timing of the poll and the accuracy of it in the light of the latest events.


But now what happens is that Trump, very aware of his difficulties to maintain his grip, will emphasise the importance of immigration even more, because this is where he is most popular. This will directly result in a negative impact on the economy. And since he has already undermined the economy, it's effects will be felt more in time.


Joey
 
Grizzly Adams said:
He said he would respond with deadly force when describing actions that constituted a deadly threat. Once you are a deadly threat, are you still a "protester?" I suggest you are not.
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Throwing a brick is not a deadly threat.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Ever been hit with a brick?
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Plenty of people have been and are just fine.
It's not a reason for a deadly response.
Even the armed forces in actual warzones aren't allowed to fire on civilians for throwing bricks so why should the police?
 
Buster Keaton said:
The protesters look like they were mainly middle aged white far lefters.
The other part were racist Latino Nationalists who refuse to accept that we have the right to control or borders and immigration.
I saw very few Black protesters.
BTW, these protests are backfiring on the Democrats.
Trump's poll numbers went up and Newsome"s went down.
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It takes at least a week after any event for the poll numbers to catchup. Here’s Trump’s overall job approval.

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Buster Keaton said:
www.dailyfetched.com

CNN Journalists: Trump’s Popularity Skyrockets Amid LA Violent Riots

Authored by Mark Jackson at The Populist Times Far-left media outlet CNN journalists admitted that Trump’s popularity has skyrocketed amid ongoing violent
www.dailyfetched.com www.dailyfetched.com
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It’s been 8 days since the LA Protests started. Trump was at 47.5% approval on 6 June and is down to 46.5% approval as of this AM. That one percent drop is due more to the normal ups and downs of polling than any major event. One can safely say the LA protests haven’t affected how folks view Trump one way or the other. Folks that were for Trump before the LA protests are still for him, those who were against him are still against him. Neither side has gained or lost due to the LA protests.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/approval/donald-trump/approval-rating
 
Peter said:
Plenty of people have been and are just fine.
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Then again, plenty of people have been shot or stabbed and are just fine.

Peter said:
It's not a reason for a deadly response.
Even the armed forces in actual warzones aren't allowed to fire on civilians for throwing bricks so why should the police?
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You think that's bad, in Colorado they let off a guy who shot and killed someone who sprayed him with pepper spray. No charges.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Plenty of other people have, and aren't.

That's not a coin cops are required to flip.
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So, you think the police should be allowed to kill civilians because they might get hurt?

If the police are that scared they should get a different job.
 
Taylor said:
Then again, plenty of people have been shot or stabbed and are just fine.


You think that's bad, in Colorado they let off a guy who shot and killed someone who sprayed him with pepper spray. No charges.
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In the UK we have rules about reasonable force in response.
I can't shoot someone for punching me for example.
 
Peter said:
So, you think the police should be allowed to kill civilians because they might get hurt?

If the police are that scared they should get a different job.
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Police are allowed to use deadly force in response to person who is a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or another person.

Just like always.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Police are allowed to use deadly force in response to person who is a reasonable threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or another person.

Just like always.
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That could be used to justify murder as the police can just claim they were in fear of harm.

That does not sound like the actions of a good police service in my view.
 
Peter said:
That could be used to justify murder as the police can just claim they were in fear of harm.
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You have to have reasonable articulation. "I was afraid" isn't good enough. However, "I was afraid of death or serious bodily injury because the deceased was hurling bricks at my face" would work.

Peter said:
That does not sound like the actions of a good police service in my view.
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Oh well.
 
Taylor said:
Looks like the President certainly approved...

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I hardly characterize that as "approval." You would have a difficult time convincing anyone that Trump actually approved of the protest upstaging his birthday party as such is completely contrary to his character.

That said, it was indeed one of the more clever, if not wittier responses he has had in the circumstance. It is actually too clever for me to believe he actually authored this. Kudos to the staff that actually quipped this...
 
Captain Adverse said:
Really? Bigger than the BLM/Rodney King riots? I doubt it. :unsure:



I just gave an example of a national grouping of riots that covered more cities and towns and did a lot more damage over the course of many months than the recent silly named "No Kings" nonsense efforts.

BTW I don't "hate Democrats," I simply have no time for fools. :coffee:
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Why are you trying to claim there was nothing historic about the biggest protest in American history?
 
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